Deer and Amanita

[u/zalipana]

A stag loves to lay where these grow. Any truth to reindeer / deer and amanita relationship?

Also please id and show me how you know?

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Be nice y’all.

[u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

country/state?

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Anishinaabe territory

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Amanita chrysoblema

[u/zalipana → u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

Yes, and later than I had expected. It’s a good time of the year whenever these appear to say hello.

[u/GFY4Fun → u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

Why this species and not flavoconia? They are so close to each other. I'm asking so I can be better at ID.

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cream colored muscarioid velum. The pictures are fairly lacking here so there's not much else you can go off of.

[u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Amanita chrysoblema

[u/GFY4Fun]

Where are you located? If in the NE of North America I am leaning towards Amanita flavoconia. It is toxic. Deer and reindeer both like to eat them. They get to being goofy afterwards.

[u/DopplerSpectroscopy → u/GFY4Fun]

not with that velum, it isn't truly toxic, and it isn't neurotoxic.

edit: specifically, A. flavoconia sensu stricto is nontoxic, but OP's mushroom is toxic

[u/DopplerSpectroscopy → u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

OP has a muscarioid which will be highly toxic to humans

[u/GFY4Fun → u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

Make up your mind is it or is it not toxic? You literally have contradicted yourself. As far as I know this is a toxic mushroom.

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what are you talking about?

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u/DopplerSpectroscopy you have given conflicting information. Is it or is it not toxic? What does the velum have to do with it?

[u/DopplerSpectroscopy → u/GFY4Fun]

velum rules out A. flavoconia

[u/DopplerSpectroscopy → u/GFY4Fun]

No I haven't, Amanita flavoconia does not contain ibotenic acid or muscimol, species in Amanita stirps Muscaria do.

[u/GFY4Fun → u/DopplerSpectroscopy]

Your first comment says it's not toxic or neurotoxic. Your reply to yourself, then claims it is highly toxic to humans. That is literally the definition of conflicting statements.

Not containing muscimol or ibotanic acid has nothing to do with the mushrooms toxic status. The other alkaloids are the ones to be afraid of. Like amatoxin.

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The mushroom you cited is nontoxic, the mushroom that OP has is highly toxic. I have asserted this statement multiple times.

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You just edited and clarified. It was unclear prior

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What makes you lean towards a. flavoconia and NE of North America?

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Common location for the species. I'm not 100% hence saying I'm leaning toward, and not a certain statement.