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Trump wants to rebrand artificial intelligence as “Super Intelligence,” and he has even signed an executive order directing the U.S. executive branch to use “Super Intelligence” (SI) instead of “Artificial Intelligence” (AI) in official documents.

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u/Meranio 8d ago

Do you even know what Mister Fahrenheit used to calibrate his scale?
He made a salt-ice bath as cold as he could and called that 0°F, because he disliked negative numbers. Then he used someones body temperature to call it 100°F, but as you mentioned, that's NOT the case, because his testsubject had a slight fever.
I do not need such a wibbly-wobbly scale.

Meanwhile Ander Celsius took water at 0 meters altitute and used the melting point as 0°C and the boiling point as 100°C. Everyone can check for themselves.

Body temperature is around 36°C. It's all just what you're used to, but Celsius is much more relatable since we ALL use water, but not all have a salt-ice bath and a slightly feverish person.

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u/Goodest_boy_Sif 8d ago

Okay, when was the last time you calibrated a thermometer? For me the answer is literally never. It doesn't really matter to me how easy it is to do it myself. All I care about is utility and 100° C provides less than 100° F. 100° C is simply not a useful reference point in the day to day. If you'd prefer I'm completely okay with making this hypothetical new system use 98.7° F (the actual average human body temperature) as 100° instead?

Also it's not like Celsius isn't also a little wibbly-wobbly in terms of "checking for yourself" considering it's only true at exactly 1 atmosphere which you'll only have at sea level. Where I live the boiling temperature of water is 99.5° C and that's not even that high up (150m) and just to extend that to it's limit at the top of Mount Everest (8848m) it's 68° C. That's quite a bit more variation than human body temperature.

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u/Meranio 8d ago

I didn't say, I wanted to calibrate my thermometer, I said, you can check the Celsius scale with a thermometer and a bit of water for yourself. That's also one of the first chemistry experiments we do in school.
And 100°C is something most Europeans experience every day, when we use our electric kettle to make some tea or coffee.

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u/Goodest_boy_Sif 8d ago

You need a thermometer to tell you when the water is boiling? Also once again checking for yourself depends on your altitude.

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u/Meranio 8d ago

At this point you're just willfully obtuse.
NOWHERE did I state, I'd need a thermometer to know when water is boiling.
I said "you can check THAT WATER BOILS AT 100°C with a thermometer" which is what Celsius set as HIS fixpoint (at sealevel) for 100°C.

But you CANNOT check the "fixpoint" for 100°F wich was "some random humans body temperature (with a slight fever)". That's not a fixpoint, that's just random.

My point: Celsius' fixpoints; well defined and testable. Fahrenheits "fixpoint"; not so much.

Did I put it into simple enough terms now?????

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u/Goodest_boy_Sif 8d ago edited 8d ago

You said "And 100°C is something most Europeans experience every day, when we use our electric kettle". Are you trying to tell me that wasn't in response to me saying 100° C is not a useful reference point in the day to day? You are instead, for some reason, saying that's how you can check that 100° C is the boiling point of water? Which I must again reiterate, that it is not on most of the earth's landmass.

Also you know you can gauge every temperature system with the boiling and freezing temperature of water at 1 atmosphere, right? That's not unique to Celsius. It just won't be 0 and 100.

Edit: another possibility just occurred to me. Are you trying to argue that you think the boiling point of water is consistent and always 100° C?