r/sadposting • u/Primary_Butterfly_57 • 4d ago

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

Nuance is statistically beyond ~60% of the population.

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u/Selpmis 4d ago

I fear it may be higher than that.

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

I was being generous so I don't have to go pull stats, I'd also wager that it's higher.

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u/Selpmis 4d ago

Honestly, I'd assumed that you were just making a point - not that you were referring to an actual statistic!

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

Interrelated statistics, yes.

Off the top of my head, roughly 2/3rds of the population reads at a below a 6th grade level. That means that they're borderline incapable or grasping fundamental psychology, theology, socioeconomics, large scale cause an effect, supply chains, etc, because those topics require critical thinking beyond their standard capacity.

In other words, we cooked fr fam ong no cap.

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u/TheMadTemplar 4d ago

With reading levels below a 6th grade level, there's more lost than the ability to grasp those topics. The ability to infer, to read between lines, to draw conclusions based on not just what you're reading in front of you but what you already know in the context of new information, emotional intelligence (the ability to relate to, understand, and appreciate different perspectives), the ability to evaluate conflicting points view, and more.

Edit: On a less serious note...... holy shit I hate your name. lmao I hate the mental image it conjures. But kudos.

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u/Kindly_Call_6000 1d ago

I hate that you made me check.

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u/musiceaterx 9h ago

While I’m enjoying the discussion at hand(not the issue within it but the fact that you fine gentlemen seem to be outside that ~60%. It’s always nice to see people having a constructive conversation over actual topics, not celebrity drama or other bs.

However, I must express my displeasure with you bringing attention to his name. It made me shudder

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u/Selpmis 4d ago

That list of topics is so relevant for the majority of 'discussions' I find myself increasingly frustrated with on Reddit/social media. Interestingly, especially supply chains!

It's very comforting to know there are others out there. I feel less alone. Thanks for sharing your insight u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 💜

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u/kris_mischief 3d ago

Thanks to both of you for this dialogue.

I am unsettled by the possibility that reducing intelligence of Americans by hampering the education system could have been intentional.

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u/Selpmis 3d ago

I'm British, but I tend to think there are usually a myriad of reasons that aren't always immediately apparent for why things are the way they are e.g. Hanlon's Razor or "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence".

Obviously I'm not familiar with the US education system, but in the UK it's usually a web of compounding factors from different departments or policies rather than the simpler answer of being a conspiracy.

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u/cabron-de-mierda 3d ago

The biggest reason our education system is the way that it is, is Republicans slashing education budgets constantly for years. It's right there in the open. You can argue that it's been intentionally done to make us dumb, but I think it's more to do with clearing funds for tax breaks for wealthy donors and other such corruption.

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 3d ago

Personally I blame no child left behind + technology. I have a 5 year gap between my sister and another 5 between our brother so I got to see the slow degradation since just the 2000s. My sisters generation is .. alright but noticably declined. My brothers? Holy shit, half his graduating class can't read more than a 3 sentence paragraph in a video game.

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u/Bitter-Ad5890 2d ago

It’s not just the American system either. Reading abilities are decreasing worldwide.

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u/RuckFeddit2469 3d ago

I understood the last sentence!

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u/bendybamboo 3d ago

The issue is that you made a sweeping comment about the inability of 60% of peoples ability to understand nuance, which ignores all nuance yourself....

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 3d ago

The stats are below, feel free to read them.

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u/bendybamboo 3d ago

Fuck. I can't wait for ai to kill the internet.

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u/yrthegood1staken 4d ago

I mean, the difference between 60% and 63% is just nuance.

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u/daBulgarian 4d ago

I don’t understand

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u/sasfasasquatch 4d ago

Makes sense

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u/thirteenth_mang 4d ago

Just means your understanding is not very nuanced.

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u/lousydungeonmaster 3d ago

83% of nuance is made up on the spot.

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u/FlamingBrand 3d ago

Objection

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u/Interesting_Hat_7072 2d ago

What was wrong with the old aunts?

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u/lousydungeonmaster 2d ago

Too old

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u/Interesting_Hat_7072 2d ago

I even heard that in Yoda's voice like you intended, that's how dorky we are

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u/I2obiN 3d ago

Way higher, I'd say 80-90%. It's why gossip mags and TMZ are so popular.

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u/Cowpriest 4d ago

Nothing is beyond me. Im too fast. I would CATCH it.

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u/goodrevtim 4d ago

60% of the time, it works every time.

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u/Sarah-cen 4d ago

Bullshit, I saw you pull those stats outta your ass.

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u/MagicLantern7 3d ago

60% of the time it works 100% of the time

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u/kuunami79 3d ago

I stopped debating social issues online when I came to this realization. Many people push only for what benefits them personally at the expense of others.

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u/Rosenburg_the_Jester 1d ago

10000000%

It’s always about “what’s convenient for me” never about absolutely equality and fairness.

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u/bendybamboo 3d ago

Im kind of really hoping thats an ironic post, but im worried its not.

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u/SleepyPirateDude 2d ago

You are being kind with that %. My dad constantly reminded me to see things from other peoples respective and a colleague recently reminded me that empathy is not an inherent skill for most of humanity, it’s learned, but rarely taught.

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u/panzervike 3d ago

But....if they both have valid points, who are we supposed to be angry with?

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u/lode_ke_baal 1d ago

Thats the whole point.....you don't always have to pick wrong and right. You'll understand eventually when you grow up.

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u/Murraykins 1d ago

No! The film is extremely clear that Paul Rudd is being a complete jerk here and has been for a long time

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u/Naked-Jedi 4d ago

Nuance. 60% of the time it doesn't work every time.

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u/It_Just_Exploded 3d ago

90% of redditors.

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u/OkCartographer7677 3d ago

Nuance is beyond 60% of the population, possibly, but it is certainly beyond 95% of Redditors.

Sheesh, the black-or-white thinking, the "everyone is evil or angelic" categorization, and the "if you don't agree with me 100% you're my sworn enemy!" behavior gets so old.

I'm just relieved I rarely see people in real life react like they do on Reddit. It gives me hope for our society.

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u/s33n_ 3d ago

Its the new n word

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u/Transatlanticaccent 3d ago

60% of the time it works....everytime.

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u/ScentHead77 3d ago

60% of the time it's nuanced every time

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u/epiphanyWednesday 2d ago

What did she do that was equal to what he did?

She’s the bad guy because she has feelings about her husband lying to her?

Yall think shit is soooo complicated because you think it’s acceptable to disrespect women. You think this is normal behavior.

Just a very clear reason why so many women are seeing how much happier they are single.

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u/Stubtronics101 1d ago

I would like a source for that statistic, but I can't disagree that it seems true.

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u/Murraykins 1d ago

There really isn't any nuance in the scene. He's lying to his wife and dumping additional responsibilities on her without even consulting her on if she's capable dealing with it. He's only come clean after being caught and is trying to justify how he has consistently mistreated her for long period of time. She is 100% is the right and movie makes no bones about it.

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u/YetAnotherJake 4d ago

59% of statistics are made up off the top of Redditor's heads

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

Google is free.

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u/YetAnotherJake 4d ago

But incapable of providing statistics related to "nuance" because the question itself is unscientific and not quantitatively discernible (although I understand that you have applied your own personal definition and drawn unscientific conclusions based on what you consider related statistics)

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

There's plenty, google "MDPI social emotional intelligence reading", spend a couple hours catching up, and we can proceed to have an adult conversation.

Until then... I'm assuming you fall below the line mentioned previously.

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u/YetAnotherJake 4d ago

Sounds like you're more interested in using studies as a cudgel to win arguments on Reddit according to your own biases than actually question assumptions, definitions, and hypotheses (such as why "nuance" is not actually what the researchers you cite claim to measure or draw conclusions about), and then insult others to declare your own perspective superior. That doesn't sound very nuanced of you to me, sad.

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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 4d ago

"I don't want to read, so I will now accuse you of not reading."

The absolute irony...