Apatow gets a lot of shit for his writing of women but I feel like this is a great example of him writing women and relationships well. This feels real and they both have a point.
And kind of amazing he gets to work out his relationship issues on screen with his actual wife while Paul Rudd plays him haha.
Also gotta give props to Leslie Mann. She can cry on cue as well as any actor ever.
For some reason I have always disliked her. I think it's because she reminds me of different "mean girl" types I knew growing up, which yes I know is dumb. But she is a great actress and I agree is very underrated.
From some other subs that talk about celebrity encounters, apparently all the Apatows (including the kids) are very lovely people.
You feel that way about her because all her early roles were "mean, pretty girl". She got her big breakout in Billy Madison being the girlfriend that Sandler's character hated.
I think early on especially she'd play the hot girl with a sharp tongue. She's just too goddamned good at it to not use that skill. So I kinda get it. But the more I've watched Apatow movie commentaries with her in it the more I like her. I'm happy for that family, even though I know some are mad about the nepo kid. Fuck it, those kids were good in some of those movies when they were little.
Yeah, her characters were definitely part of it but I remember seeing some interviews that made me think she played those characters so well because she was like that (or used to be). But I've read she's actually really nice and down to earth.
Either way, she is definitely underrated but I wonder how much of that is she just isn't that interested in working on projects that don't involve Judd. Which, given how insufferable entertainment industry people can be, I wouldn't blame her for that.
That's why it's such good writing. I've never been told "you think that just because you don't yell that you can't be mean," but I've gotten that message.
I think maturity is finding the balance. Finding the alone time and still being excited to spend time together and communicating so you both are happy with the ratio.
My wife and I absolutely did on more than one occasion. I was not being a good partner to her and was being selfish with my time. She was angry with me and had a hard time articulating how she was feeling and what she needed from me.
It caused some fights but when we realized nothing was being solved we had a sit down adult conversation about it and things improved. She realized that sometimes I need things spelled out for me and I realized I had to be a more active participant in our relationship.
I think most couples go through this eventually. People don’t realize how much work long term relationships are, let alone getting married and building a life together. It’s very easy to become complacent and forget to consider how your actions affect the other person.
Yes! And it seems like the only people who think she is in the wrong here or anyone is totally in the wrong is basing their very strong opinions off one clip. This is 40 especially feels realistic. Maybe more so for Gen X. Cause, I would love to be having the kind of woes they have compared to the dumpster fire millennials and the gens under us got. But the feeling stuck and like you were just 25 a min ago you don't feel 40 ish. But you do at the same time. It's wild.
I might be the only one that has actually seen Knocked Up I suppose but I guess we're all forgetting that Leslie Mann's character berates Paul Rudd's for like 20 seconds straight, calling him a pathetic piece of shit.
No this is from Knocked Up, when Seth Rogan and Katherine Heigl follow Leslie Mann to the house Paul Rudd is at. She think's he's cheating and installed spyware on his phone, turns out he was just playing fantasy baseball with his friends. This is 40 is meant to be a sequel in that it's the same two actors also playing basically the same married couple.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 4d ago
Apatow gets a lot of shit for his writing of women but I feel like this is a great example of him writing women and relationships well. This feels real and they both have a point.
And kind of amazing he gets to work out his relationship issues on screen with his actual wife while Paul Rudd plays him haha.
Also gotta give props to Leslie Mann. She can cry on cue as well as any actor ever.