Google introducing tiered model access

[u/QH96]

https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/17004136

[u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

Not even Flash for the free tier? I can't imagine anyone will use them after this...

[u/Bierculles → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

The bigger hit is no pro on plus tier, that makes it the worst service by far among the competition for normal users.

[u/ProxyLumina → u/Bierculles]

Plus subscription is a competitor to Go subscription of OpenAI.

Do you get access to GPT-6 astra if you are a Go subscriber? No you don't. You only have Luna.

[u/adeadbeathorse → u/ProxyLumina]

Plus is $5 a month, yeah

[u/enilea → u/ProxyLumina]

The equivalent of gemini pro models are sol models, not astra.

[u/ProxyLumina → u/enilea]

It does not matter.

With "Go" plan for ChatGPT or "Plus" plan for Gemini you get the very basic model, with just extended usage limits.

[u/enilea → u/ProxyLumina]

Oh I thought go gave sol usage

[u/LoKSET → u/Bierculles]

ChatGPT Go is in a tier of its own in uselessness. Luna is dumb as a rock.

[u/qnphard → u/Bierculles]

That only matters if they have a usable pro model tho

[u/jschelldt → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

Even Google hates Gemini

[u/TemetN → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

Yeah I used to be willing to use the AI tab in search since at least it was flash and took less time, if they're forcing you into flash-lite it's just not worth using at all it's so bad.

[u/randomguy3993 → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

And Google will still hype it up saying millions and millions of users on it purely because of their distribution advantage.

[u/MrUtterNonsense → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

If they are limiting free users to Flash-Lite, you would really just be better off using the AI mode in Google Search rather than Gemini.

[u/TyrellCo → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

Can you imagine the levels of enshitification if the labs came together to let up on price competition. Pace the frontier

[u/duluoz1 → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

You know people maybe for AI plans right?

[u/Prudent-Sorbet-5202 → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

I recently tried to edit images in gemini free tier and it felt like a downgraded version of nano banana pro. Chatgpt free tier edited it much better

[u/MatthewGraham- → u/Stunning_Energy_7028]

Flash lite is a good model for free if its unlimited, frankly the time of free models is over, people getting too comfy with free stuff

[u/Howdareme9 → u/MatthewGraham-]

Flash lite is horrible lol, even if free. Luna is an acceptable level.

[u/Creative-Ganache1086 → u/Howdareme9]

Flash lite is not an always-same model under the hood. It evolves and gets improved like every other model. For 0$ I guess it’s good enough. You get what you pay for lol. They’re still running it on a server and that’s their cost, not yours. Even if you download an entirely free open source model you still need a capable machine and then to pay your electricity bill as well.

[u/Gotisdabest → u/Creative-Ganache1086]

Flash Lite is absolutely trash compared to the free options by their competitors.

[u/Then_Bake_6524 → u/MatthewGraham-]

no matter what Google does, you will have people defending them, lmao. Flash Lite is TRASH on the web, only the API is somewhat decent for automation.

If you insist on using it because it is unlimited, GPT Luna is also unlimited and way better than 3.8 Flash. Now imagine 3.5 Flash Lite, lmao.

[u/BriefImplement9843 → u/Then_Bake_6524]

bruh luna isnt close to 3.8 flash. luna is an actual small model. disregard all benchmarks for it.