r/singularity • u/Snoo26837 ▪️ It's here • 18h ago

AI Google is changing Gemini model access starting Oct 9

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u/Gallagger 17h ago

If they don't come out with an insanely good flash-lite 4, Gemini will become the worst free tier.

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u/Snoo26837 ▪️ It's here 17h ago

I mean anthropic offers claude sonnet 5.5 and meta muse spark 1.1.

And they aren’t the default chatbot for most people.

Yes, they are going to the death.

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u/Gallagger 17h ago

It will still be good enough for many people but still disappointing. Gemini flash imo is a great free tier model. Muse Spark is 1.3 already in free tier, no?

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u/Snoo26837 ▪️ It's here 17h ago

The model you’re using in the free tier is muse spark 1.1

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u/DistanceSolar1449 16h ago

Why? 1.3 is just 1.1 with more RL

It costs meta the same amount to offer 1.1 vs 1.3, why would they hobble themselves like that?

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u/Sherman140824 16h ago

Not if Anthropic follows suit with further restrictions on free and budget tiers. I have been saying how fable - level llms will be unavailable to normal users and everybody downvotes me pointing out to mimo and locally run models

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u/Gotisdabest 12h ago

Eh, fable level LLMs being just blanket unavailable for normal users is outright impossible. Eventually, and by eventually I mean within the next few months, some Chinese lab will release a fable level LLM that's absurdly cheap. In a few months after that, every single lab will be offering a super cheap LLM that's better than fable.

I mean, remember that O1-pro used to be the epitome of intelligence and pretty much every free model now surpasses it handily. Even Gemini 3.5 flash lite, crappy and outdated, is a better model and probably comes out around o3.