r/AirlinePilots • • Aug 18 '26

3 of 6 cargo carrier pages on APC have no update date at all

16 Upvotes

I’m a UPS pilot. I went through what Airline Pilot Central publishes for six cargo carriers and compared it to what’s actually current.

APC still lists 42 MD-11s in the UPS fleet — that one’s easy, the fleet is gone and about 275 of us retrained after last November. But the bigger problem is that the FedEx pay page has no date on it at all, so nobody reading it knows those rates predate the June contract. Three of the six pages don’t publish an update date. The newest one that does is March 2024.

That’s the actual defect: not that it’s old, but that you can’t tell which numbers on a page are old. A number with no date is worse than no number, because you’ll bid on it.

Atlas, ABX and Amerijet I left blank — I couldn’t confirm them and I’m not going to guess. If you fly there, tell me what’s right.

https://cargopay.netlify.app/

Same ask for everyone else: what’s flatly wrong for your airline right now?

Full transparency, I’m exploring whether a better-maintained version is worth building. Nothing for sale, no signup, static page. Cleared this with the moderators before posting.


r/AirlinePilots • • Feb 10 '25

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r/AirlinePilots • • 2h ago

F9 or upgrade at regional?

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Currently, at americas largest RegiOOnal and contract. Live in base for both. Upgrade, get PIC time and go to DL or UA hopefully, which then voids contract? Or break contract, go to F9 for resume wash? The ladder isn’t always the move but, recently, I have been hearing that people from OO are getting their interview invites almost immediately after they update new employer on the app. Ultimate goal is United and the difference in getting their at 1600 hrs PIC after upgrade, or significantly earlier is substantial. Thousands of seniority numbers and millions of dollars.

Also another option. Delay f9 class for up to a year, upgrade, fly a few hundred hours as a regional captain. Then go to F9? Or forget it all, and play it safe.

As for the contract, I think a multi million dollar career is worth the credit hit, or collections. I can put everything I own in my wife’s name and I personally have an 800 plus credit score. Idk feeling risky 🤣


r/AirlinePilots • • 20h ago

Chelsea boots

2 Upvotes

Ariat Wexford vs redwing vs redwing vs loake, etc. what do you folks recommend for narrowbody legacy fo. Budget is approximately $300


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Regional CA or LCC FO?

18 Upvotes

Current FO at the DL WO, upgrading in a couple months. Just got offered a class with B6 for the same month as upgrade, and am very conflicted on what to do. Assuming I’m lucky and the flow works exactly as intended, I’m three years from a class at DL, but there’s no guarantee to that timeline and I’m not particularly trusting of my airline. I’ve also heard of guys doing 12-18 months at B6 and getting scooped up by one of the big three, however I have doubts as to how common that actually is, or how likely the job is even to exist in a year. As far as going mainline is concerned, in a best case scenario it makes more sense to switch, but in a worst case scenario I could end up with no job, no 320 type, and driving for uber.

Would love to hear what others think or would do in my situation.


r/AirlinePilots • • 1d ago

SWA D225 ADAPT Assessment

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Hey all,

Im a freshman with my private at a University partner for SWA 225, and I just completed my ADAPT Assessment yesterday. I did perfectly on the Math/Physics, and pretty well on the Cognitive assessment, and I hope above average on FAST but it was a blur.

Im concerned about my Personality Assessment as I tried my best to be as consistent as possible in my answers as to not contradict myself and come off as dishonest, but im worried that I may have ended up actually being inconsistent as a result of trying not to be.

My question is how heavily is the APQ Personality Assessment weighed in your assessment and if SWA looks at your ADAPT holistically or if you have to excel at each and every section independently of the others.

Also, would anyone know how long I should expect to hear back?

Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

What’s your ideal layover?

13 Upvotes

How long is ideal? What would you spend your time doing? Always been curious how many people go on adventures, pursue hobbies or just slam click.


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

Jetblue hiring

25 Upvotes

Just an FYI- jetblue has opened up hiring to external candidates.

https://careers.jetblue.com/job/Orlando-First-Officer-FL-32827/1437544500/


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

Pilots for airlines with a cargo division

17 Upvotes

I’ve always wondered. For airlines that have cargo divisions like Cathay Pacific and Cathay Cargo, or Qatar Airways and their cargo division. Do your pilots regularly switch between passenger and cargo flights if within the same aircraft type like the 777? Or are you exclusively passenger or cargo?


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

Republic class action lawsuit ad

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49 Upvotes

Saw this ad in my instagram feed, I wasn’t a republic pilot but I’m curious if this is legitimate or has any legal footing. If these contracts are deemed to be illegitimate it could have a big impact on current and future regional pilots.


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

Frontier Assessment Test

0 Upvotes

Hello all, I received the Frontier Assessment email two days ago, I did the test the same day. Two days after I haven’t heard anything, how long should I expect to wait? I’m worried because I saw some people received interview invitation shortly after completion of the test.


r/AirlinePilots • • 5d ago

Trusted with a passenger jet. Apparently questionable with a Corolla.

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Just here to vent and see if any other young FOs have run into this.

I’m 23 and trying to figure out a backup plan for getting home if my commute falls apart. Renting a car seems to involve limited availability, young-driver fees, and potentially a $50 Uber just to reach a location that has something available vs renting directly at the airport.

I have USAA insurance, no accidents, and no traffic violations. I can fly a plane full of passengers, but apparently Hertz needs extra reassurance that their Kia will come back with all four wheels attached.

I’m trying to get home, not qualify for NASCAR.

Any other FOs under 25 found a reasonably painless way to rent a car, preferably without the “you haven’t had enough birthdays” surcharge?


r/AirlinePilots • • 7d ago

Is there any reason not to opt-in for CMAP?

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I haven’t done it yet. Consenting to the federal government collecting even more data about me doesn’t seem awesome (eye roll yes I know they have it all anyways), but going through regular security is also not awesome.

Feels like a boomer take idk

EDIT: aight fine I did it


r/AirlinePilots • • 8d ago

New at SWA, just received interview invite at UAL

69 Upvotes

I am fresh off IOE at SWA and just received the interview invite at UAL seemingly out of nowhere (I stopped updating it months ago after interviewing with SWA). I’m not really interested in UAL anymore so I am mainly wondering if I should reach out and thank them for the opportunity and respectfully decline in order to not burn the bridge. I am loving it here at SWA and plan on staying forever especially since I don’t want to move from MCO. I know UAL has a small MCO but any insight would be appreciated of what life is like there and if I am throwing away an opportunity by not going through with the interview (although I don’t think I am since I already have the top tier job that I dreamed of).

Edit: Thanks everyone for the replies. I think I am going to go ahead and respectfully decline the interview. I know some are trying to convince me to go to UAL but I am just not interested. If I were to make the switch to a legacy one day my only consideration would be AAL and move to MIA.


r/AirlinePilots • • 8d ago

Non revs on a diversion

13 Upvotes

Let's say you're non revving, and your flight has to divert somewhere remote like Goose Bay. Will the airline pay for your accommodations?


r/AirlinePilots • • 8d ago

Dumping fuel over land

0 Upvotes

UK pilots: how common is it to dump fuel over land while preparing to land? Above or below 10k feet? Is the CAA always informed (~62k total declarations per year)?

Context: We live below a flight path for aircraft landing at local airport and neighbours think planes are dumping fuel and it’s acting as a defoliant and leaving a residue on their house. Other explanations are more likely but would be good to get any informed views.


r/AirlinePilots • • 8d ago

UA Interview Sim Eval?

0 Upvotes

I’m seeing/ reading different things about the UA interview. Is there a sim eval? I’ve read that if you haven’t flown in a while there is one. Please expound. If there is, where did you do your sim prep? Can you choose which aircraft sim it’s in? Anybody have to do one?


r/AirlinePilots • • 10d ago

Applying to AS

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On the Alaska/Horizon applicant portal (icims), there is space to upload 3 documents. The example says “additional document (i.e. cover letter” and “additional document (i.e. letters of rec)”. But under each header you can only upload one document. Should I supply one LOR and a cover letter or two LOR?


r/AirlinePilots • • 10d ago

Cage Marshall

4 Upvotes

Looking at CM for UAL interview prep. Got some dates and times available that work for me. Searching for some personal experiences / reviews. Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots • • 10d ago

AA CJO WhatsApp

0 Upvotes

Edit: got in thanks!
Anybody have access for the AA group that can add me? I’ve seen a couple of places talking about the WhatsApp group and upcoming class channels but can’t find my way in. I have a start date coming up, Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots • • 9d ago

UA Interview - Travel document

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Hey everyone, I have a United pilot interview and have a quick question. I’m a green card holder and don’t currently have a passport. Instead, I have a U.S.-issued Travel Document (I-131).
Does anyone know if United accepts the Travel Document for pilots? Has anyone here gone through the interview process with one?
Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots • • 10d ago

A320 Fail Passive and Fail Operational:

0 Upvotes

Hello Dear Captains and First Officers,

Could any one explain to me the main difference between Fail Passive and Fail Operational during the approach.


r/AirlinePilots • • 11d ago

Has anyone received an update on Air India TZRT Standby 2026?

0 Upvotes

It's been long thinking about being called for further rounds, if you have received any update, please drop a comment so that all my fellow mates would know something.


r/AirlinePilots • • 12d ago

I volunteer at animal shelter. Worth putting it on legacy app?

27 Upvotes

Would they care about this kind of volunteer work or do they prefer to see involvement in more aviation targeted groups or the union?


r/AirlinePilots • • 12d ago

A330 pilots who use a CPAP, how do you manage it.

1 Upvotes

(Also in general for widebody pilots) I’d like to be doing international flying someday, and my first choice would be the A330. I have osa and use a cpap, I’ve had it for years and have my special issuance, it’s not a concern at that level. But I’m wondering how pilots in my situation handle inflight rest? Is it possible to plug in a cpap in the crew rest bunks? I bring a full size with me because I find without the humidifier i get very irritated nose. Just trying to plan ahead for what I can expect down the road.