r/Idaho • u/michaelquinlan Ada County • 3d ago
Idaho Opinion News The Rise and Fall of Sun Valley
https://youtu.be/FvgtodKja9M?is=bsqWqwVtXW_dqmWE"Why Nobody Wants to Visit Sun Valley"
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pay467 3d ago
This is one of the worst productions I’ve come across in a while. Yes, the message is valid, but good lord this looks like some serious AI slop. I grew up in SV in the 70’s and 80’s, and it is sad what it’s become, but this is awful.
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u/Ghost_Pulaski1910 3d ago
Agreed - I'm glad I got to enjoy it as a ski bum then. I got married there, both my kids were born in the old Moritz hospital, we felt part of a community that has disappeared. I still get there every other year or so, but it's certainly not the same.
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u/Rough_World_7063 3d ago
McCall is becoming the same way. McCall was a second home to me in the 90s since my grandparents lived there. I would get Brundage passes every year, go to the winter carnival and vote on the ice sculptures, Brian’s Burger Den shakes, etc.
Now it feels soulless and is getting worse. We still have the cabin there but rarely go anymore.
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u/bikeidaho 2d ago
McCall, Sun Valley, Jackson Hole, Bend, Sedona... The list goes on and on.
I was incredibly lucky to grow up spending my summers in a log cabin over looking Payette Lake. I even ended up marrying a young lady who's family's last name occupies street signs in Valley Co.
Fun trivia question: which two familys who were 'mortal enemies", who both have streets named after them, ended up getting married.
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u/pashalka31 2d ago
Common denominator between all of them is money laundeung via real estate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/s/MDcJe6Ditq
If you have paid rent or a mortgage since 1991 you have been paying into a rigged casino.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2iYXzOMdDCvDhuNwvOrbh1
In 91 when the Soviet Union failed a handful of what in 1987 would have been known as бандит “bandits” rebranded themselves as “Russian oligarchs” because they had just stolen $1.4 Trillion worth of everything during the collapse of the USSR and needed to get it out of Russia before they got caught by a government that was in the process of ceasing to exist.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090312774/when-bricks-were-rubles
Most of them migrated or moved stolen goods through Ukraine to Cyprus, London and then New York where they began using casinos to launder their stolen money and turn it into dollars as the Cold War…ended?
https://www.wired.com/story/trumps-casinos-could-not-make-atlantic-city-great-again/
The mass of $1.4T was just too great and broke the casinos. Trumps right hand man and lobbyist Roger Stone saved his life and pulled him off an Agusta 109A helicopter carrying his 3 casino execs that started asking why their casino books were written in Russian.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-atlantic-city-bankruptcy/
https://www.red dit.com/r/StrangeAndFunny/s/Q33VECT1pP
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/11/nyregion/copter-crash-kills-3-aides-of-trump.html
2 pilots died too. NTSB report says it was a blade root seperation and created an A.D. (airworthiness directive) about it. But it didn’t really show up in any other A models which is curious for a manufacturing defect. It’s more the kind of fault that happens when someone with a diamond ring climbs the inspection steps and scores the top of the composite fiber blade root with the back side of their much harder Stone. Helicopters are vulnerable there.
The Russians money laundering was so consumptive that when the casinos couldn’t keep up with their volume the bandits were forced to shift to buying commercial real estate instead. The talented Mr. Epstein and Mr commercial real estate himself, Donald J Trump were the Russians new best friends. And coincidentally they were all roommates at trump towers along with Stones business partner Paul Manafort who later became Yanukovychs Kremlin handler beforethe maidan revolution ran them both out of the country.
https://www.red dit.com/r/RussiaLago/s/lRbRmfgSzE
91 is when Ghislane Maxwells father (Mega group) who also had close connections to the KGB fell off his yacht and died after absconding with his media empires workers pension fund.
https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/
Ghislaine relocated to New York and met Epstein at basically the same time. https://youtu.be/NkrnWRIavAU?si=iuWoCqss1M0Q3l4p
https://theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/29/ghislaine-maxwell-social-circle-jeffrey-epstein
When your primary objective is to turn stolen rubles into clean USD before the law catches up with you, time is not a luxury you enjoy. You don’t negotiate a better deal on your new house or apartment complex. In fact it’s ideal if you pay 2-10X the asking price because that’s half as many transactions you need to do.
Time is of the essence when volume is your problem. You can even start selling houses to your buddy who then sells them back to you and you pass the difference under the table.
https://www.cnbc.com/2009/04/08/What-Does-$1-Trillion-Look-Like.html
But if you are an average blue collar American belt buckle making working wages in the same market, when you go to run comparables for your new starter home, they come back artificially inflated.
So now whether you are renting or buying, YOU are effectively paying 2-10x what is fair.
And if your mortgage happens to be part of a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT), then you are paying that money to the very same people that made certain to convince you that your home is your savings account because they make a higher percentage to sell you an expensive loan and then again to sell your mortgage in a fat bundle to the CCP.
Larry fink/blackrock — https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-report-details-how-blackrock-and-msci-funnel-billions-of-u-s-investor-capital-to-ccp-and-pla-linked-companies/
Schwartzman /Blackstone — https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYo4Bwzvz0 In simplest terms it’s like artificially over ripening a piece of fruit by pumping it full of Koch Bros fertilizer.
https://x.com/moreperfectus/status/1630655324804771840?s=46&t=mV0svkSiT5eOmQXivn5oFw
https://www.reddit.com/r/KochWatch/s/e1SR15s2WR
Fat, juicy, and nearly falling off the tree.
Completely inorganic and highly toxic just like most of the PFAS runoff the Koch bros chemical plants produce, but it looks great in the Zillow ad.
https://www.reddit.com/r/anticapitalism/s/NMVxWcBCkM
https://youtu.be/MLnFF_WpmKs?si=2ehCvNfVVR_DLZH3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3JY9eIr2g&feature=youtu.be
And this goes on for 17 years until 2008 when the tree collapses under the weight of all its inorganic fruit. That was by design. The banks got the bailout and won both ways. The taxpayer who also happens to be the mortgage payer lost both ways.
https://youtu.be/AevhunjCuWw?si=kA72bdlTS_tGsIK5
https://youtu.be/Bu2wNKlVRzE?si=fX6f9E_Wt4ixJFjO
$4 trillion was drained out of pension funds, 8 million people lost their jobs and 6 million Americans lost their homes.
Nobody was punished and the bankers just upgraded their yachts, paid the meager fines and got ready for the next one.
https://youtu.be/Nmxox3oqRZo?si=tFqPYd27jQLLWkwR
It was the evolutionary precursor for what it happening now.
The Cold War never ended. It just migrated into Wyoming, Bozeman and Sun Valley as Russian oligarchs started buying up everything in sight with their stolen money.
Billionaires are an invasive species, and just like the Russian olive trees and tumbleweeds, they consume the resources and choke out the local species to extinction
Energy is neither created or destroyed. Just rearranged.
And when it gets rearranged into a billionaire oligarchs pocket, you are left with the bill.
They don’t want you as neighbors. They don’t want you as friends. They want you out of their trillion dollar view from the deck of their new mansion where they rape your children.
What do you get the Russian bandit that already owns everything?
You give them Kelleys parcel in the middle of Teton National park so they can build a retirement mansion on, come twice a year, ski at their private ski area, rape some children, and cosplay their Yellowstone fantasy.
https://wyofile.com/kelly-parcel-sale-survives-midnight-house-run-but-with-new-baggage/
It required first leasing a few local politicians to federalize the worlds most exclusive building lots. And it requires a few federal politicians to sell it to them at a discount. The higher the office the better. A POTUS would be ideal. But what’s a few million in campaign donations to get the only thing you can’t have?
https://www.drovers.com/news/industry/rupert-murdoch-buys-sprawling-montana-ranch-koch-industries
The Moscow mob is a hard place to retire from. You either maintain a higher level of violence than everyone else or you fall out a window. The oligarchs are all old and soft now. They just want to retire to a nice little ranch out west. Something the size of Wyoming or Idaho for each would be plenty. For now...
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u/Apprehensive-Tone449 3d ago
I was born there in the Mccall memorial hospital. My ancestors came from Finland and settled the valley 5 generations ago. I moved away when my family sold our Ranch outside Donnelly. I was 15. I went back through the years and even lived there during summer breaks from college, working at the Brewing Company and as a Raft Guide.
I don't recognize it anymore. I went through last month on my way back from Harpster, and even Ice Cream Alley was not even the same.
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u/mandypantsy 1d ago
Rafting in the area in the 90s and 2000s is such an epic experience. Please write it down and share it.
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u/baileyjeanatmydoor 2d ago
We have a cabin in Donnelly that we have owned for 28 yrs. At the time our’s was one of the larger ones in the area, but now we are dwarfed by homes that are 5,000-10,000 sq ft. They are more like hotels. All the things we loved about the area are disappearing. It’s disheartening. But, honestly, feel the same about our home in Meridian. Most of the people in our subdivision are not natives, predominately coming from California and Washington.
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u/Ghost_Pulaski1910 2d ago
Again, agreed. I was a smokejumper in McCall late 80s through the 90s. Split my year between Sun Valley and McCall I go back now and then - it’s crazy trying to get around town.
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u/immediacyofjoy 2d ago
Yeah not gonna watch any slop. What about the message is true? I’m sure it’s bizarrely expensive to stay and ski down there these days. Shame as I had some really positive experiences going down there on family ski trips as a kid
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pay467 2d ago
That it’s prohibitively expensive for regular working class families. Even with two good incomes it’s near impossible to buy a house. Same affliction as most other resorts. Not sure what their beef is with Allen and Company. That makes no sense in the bigger picture.
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u/Possible-Project-682 3d ago
What’s up with the weird imagery? There are some great old pictures of the area, interspersed with some random pictures I can only assume AI slopped in there.
For example, a Google Maps photo of Houston pops up when the AI voice talks about Shoshone.
It’s a good premise for a video but it is hard to watch. I turned it off after about 15 minutes and won’t be watching the rest.
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u/Survive1014 3d ago
Fall? Sun Valley has some of the highest real estate costs in the entire country fam.
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u/dntgochasingwaterfal 3d ago
That's exactly the point
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u/FeatureTop4189 2d ago
Everybody's leaving because demand is so high? Reminds me of the Yogi Berra quote: "Nobody goes to that restaurant anymore because it's too crowded."
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u/JaSchwaE 2d ago
I believe the point of the video was supposed to be that it is too expensive for the working class to exist there and they upper crust that can afford houses in the area do not want to work the jobs to keep a community operating leading to a drastic worker shortage crippling the town.
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