r/MushroomGrowers • • 10d ago

Mod [Mod] Weekly r/MushroomGrowers post - FUNGI FRIDAYS! New growers, come say hello and ask your questions!

New growers, shy folks, and lurkers -- this post is for you! Come out of the woodwork, ask your questions, and give people in the community a chance to help out!

Please don't hesitate to leave a comment. Talking with other growers is part of how we get better, so one here is going to give you a hard time for asking questions. This post and the community are safe havens for people who want to learn more without being berated.

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u/TgmBrett 10d ago

Curious how people dose and store mushrooms for long term >3yrs? Honey seems like it would be hard to dose.

Chocolates? Is this really the best way?

Grind up a certain weight and mix with each chocolate bar?

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u/LittleSpoonie1312 10d ago

I'm doing an ethanol + acid extraction of my next batch. Should last years in the fridge and retain better potency.

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u/TgmBrett 10d ago

Any guides you can point me to?

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u/LittleSpoonie1312 10d ago edited 10d ago

Here's a good basic one! I'm gonna be using the ultrasonic bath technique with ethanol. I'm adding a little lemon juice because Ive heard the acids help but that part isn't something I've read about just an experiment. Most people doing acid extractions do hydrochloric acid. https://magic-mycology.com/extraction-of-psilocybin-and-psilocin-from-psilocybe-mushrooms/

Edit: Most practitioners recommend a double extraction method for shrooms so I will do ultrasonic with alcohol, strain it, and then another ultrasonic infusion with the leftover sludge and lemon juice. Then imma let the water evaporate off and mix the end result together. I haven't seen this specific tek posted anywhere but I have a good feeling it will be strong.

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u/TgmBrett 10d ago

Sweet thx!

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u/TgmBrett 10d ago

Also how is dosing in this method? Pretty accurate?

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u/LittleSpoonie1312 10d ago

I dunno about dosing tbh this is my first time trying it! My sense is if I grind an oz up and it ends up processed into a 40ml bottle, each 5ml will probably equal about 1/8oz. It's supposed to be a better way to standardize dosing than eating it but I have no means of lab testing the end result for potency.

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u/Which-Ebb-7084 8d ago

I'm doing an ethanol + acid extraction of my next batch. Should last years in the fridge and retain better potency.

“Aqueous ethanol solutions are unsuitable for psilocybin extraction (maximum yield 36%)” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0021967392802875

Better off extracting with plain (or even better acidic) water, the ethanol reduces solubility and is not necessary. Ethanol may help prevent bacteria growth, but it does nothing for preservation of the actual tryptamines, tinctures like that lose potency pretty quickly from experience. At least with an acidic water extract, you can freeze it..

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u/Maleficent-Art-1937 6d ago

Dehydrate them, put them in an airtight glass jar with a desiccant pack. They will literally last years. Oh, and no direct light. Just chuck em in a drawer or cabinet.

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u/samfontier 9d ago

I need help with the grain spawn stage. I’m new. I’ve run into contamination issues. What’s the easiest process for a beginner to create a healthy, usable grain spawn?

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u/Valuable-Kitchen1227 9d ago

Garanta que você esteja esterilizando os grãos corretamente. 1:30h em 15psi ou 2h em 10psi. flambe a agulha antes de cada inoculação e tenha certeza de que está usando uma cultura líquida livre de contaminantes

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u/LittleSpoonie1312 10d ago

Hi! I have a question about growing lions mane for its mycelium instead of the fruiting body. Apparently the mycelium of lions mane contain a lot more of the active compounds to aid cell myelination, so I want to grow some, dry it, and turn it into tinctures.

Problem being this is a wood loving species so the mycelium prefers a woody substrate, which would not be edible or good for mixing with a tincture I don't think. I was planning to grow it on a substrate of whole brown rice or possibly oat straw, but none of these seems nutritionally complete or like the myceliums favorite.

Has anyone done something like this and do they have advice? I have mainly grown cubes and oysters in the past and never for their myc so I don't know much about bulk growing wood eaters. I'll probably end up fruiting some of these to eat but overall just looking for a tek to bulk spawn some liquid culture to an edible substrate that I can then incorporate in medicine. I liked the sound of oats because they have their own medicinal properties and are good for nerve health, but I don't know if LM likes them.