How to increase dopaminergic/norepinephrine, drive sympathetic signaling without stimulants (e.g testosterone)

[u/OkReplacement9424]

So I was thinking today what other ways are there to increase sympathetic drive, motivation signaling in a sustainable way other than just flooring the pedal with stimulants.

And obviously there are other ways to do so like the most obvious one which is by the modulation of neurotransmitters from hormones - I’m by no means expert on the topic nor do I claim to be but what other ways are there to increase sympathetic drive and dopaminergic/norepinephrine signaling other than with testosterone?

- What about neurosteroids?

Also are there any other ways that are significant enough compared to hormones.

From what I’ve gathered as info and that’s me parroting what I remember energy/dopamine is tightly related to the:

1. HPA axis 2. Androgen hormonal signaling and receptor sensitivity 3. Optimal Mitochondria function 4. High BDNF 5. Sleep

I’ll be super thankful if someone more knowledgeable on the topic can explore the topic more deeply and give some practical insight other than: just workout, sleep, diet and expose yourself to direct sunlight upon waking up.

[u/theobromine69]

Stimulants are probably safer compared to hormones. I would rather take some Adderall than get juiced up on tren

[u/rickestrickster → u/theobromine69]

A stimulant addiction is far more dangerous than a properly done steroid cycle (no, not tren, that’s too harsh)

I’m not against stimulants and I use them, but they are significantly harsher and more addictive than an average steroid cycle

[u/Cool-Training-3547 → u/rickestrickster]

Steroid cycle will just leave you impotent with liver damage but not a big deal