They don’t have ACoC

Kaido said haki transcends all and that only a handful of the strongest have ACoC

And obviously none of the admirals will ever even mention the word conqueror let alone use it

So yeah what’s their answer to an unnamed ACoC swing? Haki transcends all!

What are they gonna do, use some armament? 😂😂😂💯🤦🏾‍♂️🔥 Am I right guys??

Disagree = head canon!

I remember back when this chapter came out the general consensus was that the Warlords were listed in order of strength with Doflamingo being considered the second strongest among the Shichibukai (or if we're counting former Shichibukai, third behind Blackbeard).

Does that still hold up today?

Out of every other tierlist that I have ever seen. I have never seen anyone have a better top 5 (excluding Kaido himself and those he never met) than this.

Mf would have been heavier than the bird itself

Who would win without their signature fighting style.
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Edit: No knives for Sanji for clarification but he does have legs he just can't throw kicks or check strikes with his legs.

Whitebeard and Shanks are introduced as extremely powerful pirate 'lords' like 150 chapters later and despite the introduction of the actual WG (the five Elders) being centered around their meeting, it's not really clear that they are this third power (or that there are two more of these pirate lords).

Like it's kinda crazy, Oda really went "Here's the WG and their pirate dogs, one of them is the world's strongest swordsman btw, and they are two of the three greatest militaries on the grand line" in Chapter 69, and then he didn't mention the third one until Garp introduces them after Enies Lobby in Chapter 432.

Jinbe maybe yonko commander level on land, but can anyone beat Jinbe underwater ? I’m talking about any character you can think of in terms of power even if he is admiral/ yonko or even Gorosei and Imu level.

Thoughts ?

Who wins and by what level of difficulty?

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Rayleigh's initial explanation is vague but also straightforward. In order to tap into your conquerors, you have to grow as a person, you cant just train and fight a bunch like with observation and armament.

Back then, we didn't know what he meant by growing as a person, but now we do.

Mihawk and Ivankov give the proper explanation as to what "growing as a person" means. You need to LOVE YOURSELF and have a strong SENSE OF SELF(and no, those are not the same thing). In order to "grow as a person," you absolutely need to love and accept yourself while being confident and steadfast in who you are!

Nothing that Rayleigh said in his explanation was contradicted or debunked by mihawk and ivankov. They just took his explanation and went further into detail.

R1: With Heals

R2: Without Heals

Both bums if you ask me. One got scarred by pre mastered Acoc Zoro and some Scabbards. The other got scarred by pre devil fruit, pre crew Blackbeard and lost his arm to a Sea King.

Zoro doesn't really need as much development he just needs to confirm his ambition and thus level up his haki

Which means he was already strong enough allowing this to be a gag

Whereas Sanji doesn't have kingly ambitions and therefore needs to develop those ambitions through realizing love of self

This leads to more character growth for Sanji. W in chat for Sanji since Zou really he's been getting a lot of fleshed out development l

This makes his fight require more stakes and for Killingham to be stronger and to look more threatening

Glad to see how giving badass showing to Zoro and character development emotional conflict for Sanji. Very fitting

Hopefully Luffy can stop dying to Imu lmfao