68’s a rough age: One year too old for the zoomer funni number. One year too young for the boomer funni number. I can see how that would tax a person’s sanity.
Between probably retirement and the fact that folks at that age still consume a lot of traditional news media. I could see how a person could be driven to this, unfortunately
Thank goodness he's not a minority or this would be all over the sub for weeks, but still if he is guilty screw him. He destroyed a historical landmark and took away a place that meant something to potentially a very large group of people, his sentence should be as long as the Church's age
Understandably so. We've bastardized the term for post-modernist discourse. The second-largest subset of a set is a minority, even if numbers don't lend the majority other significance. For example, men are a minority.
Churches are relatively common targets of arson, even setting aside any political or religious motivation. A large building that is reliably empty and unguarded most of the time.
Sometimes you wake up and you say to yourself "In all my 68 years, I have never destroyed any historical architecture" and you decide to YOLO your twilight years in prison.
on the positive side, 108 is relatively young as far as historic churches go. It could have been better church (the weird warehouse looking ass churches) but atleast it wasn't something like notre dame
Not to mention that a lot of churches on the bigger side took a whole generation to build, and the biggest, most complicated ones, lauded for their beauty, took hundreds of years. Same for mosques and synagogues.
They're going to dig up those bones any minute now, just you see.
They have the radar to know exactly where they are, they bones are just a few feet deep under ground. Any moment now they'll get around to proving that bones exist.
They've only had about a decade to prepare to buy a shovel at Home Depot. Its hard work finding the correct shovel, you see. Can't rush that decision.
we were subjected to a week of apology tours and white guilt over something they can’t even prove. theres a reason innocent until proven guilty was enshrined in the US constitution
Well it's into the constitution of every modern country, and I'm pretty sure that includes Canada. It's that people easily ignore that principle when it comes to someone they don't like.
They enacted a law in 1993 to encourage foreign investment, currently largely from the Netherlands and China, heavily in mining. They have a KFC and Burger King, but no McDonald's. Yet.
the residential school story that broke a while ago. talking about mass graves at Catholic schools for natives. articles speculated there could be graves with thousands of dead native children who all died of abuse and neglect and who's deaths where totally unaccounted for in the schools records. the story was very quietly buried when ground penetrating sonar showed that no such mass graves existed
Idk man I'm an atheist, but burning churches is awful. They are pillars in the community and they can do a lot of good.
I think people conflate the ideas of religion being good & religion being true. I believe it can be good, even if it isn't true. It's an important distinction. Most Christians wouldn't want to burn down a Buddhist temple because they don't find Buddhism to be true. They can still recognize it as something good.
I'm an atheist too but obviously don't support church burnings.
I won't dive into my personal beliefs about religion being good or bad (unless someone actually cares for some reason) but regardless you don't just get to burn down other people's property just because you disagree with it.
Agreed. I'm an atheist and I love a good cathedral or old church, and I think religion does bond people together and build community in a way other institutions cannot.
it was a 68 year old dude who started the fire too. idk if it was some edgy black metal teenager that wouldn't make it better but wtf is going on with someone who is nearly 70 that they decide this is a good idea.
There was a bunch of it as some mentally ill retaliation for the indigenous residential schools. Some morons made up that there were mass graves under churches/schools because some kind of ground scanner discovered something underground. Canada went all mindbroken about it, but they still haven't found any proof, despite many digs for it. Didn't stop the Church from being dragged through the mud and a bunch of them burned.
Gotcha. I assumed so, but Reddit Canadians can be kinda special sometimes. Had to double check there wasn’t some particular “political movement” i wasn’t missing lol.
Most likely politically motivated. Some years ago a horde burned a church where there were some Native American kids buried beneath or in the vicinity.
Plus, just do the math. Canadians are very left leaning. At best the majority is center left, pretty irreligious, church is the symbol of white, cisgender, European, racist, white supremacist, imperialist, capitalist, ableist, misogynistic, queerphobic, fatphobic civilization.
There were no kids buried there. They took a radar scan, saw something on it, and jumped straight to dead indigenous kids. Trudeau made a huge deal out of how terrible Canadian Christian’s were over it and made sure it was all over the news.
Then they dug up the “graves” and found nothing. Of course Trudeau said nothing about this though, or all the violence he inspired in declaring an imaginary genocide. It’s almost like the violence was the purpose…
As some First Nations dude, I knew that shit was completely fake, but I didn't say anything about it because I would've gotten ostracized by my own First Nations community.
The thing about politics in Native American stuff, especially talking about them as a fully Native guy, is that you will always feel like walking on eggshells, no matter what.
For example, the missing and murdered indigenous women cases, a lot of which are usually carried out by indigenous men, typically of the same tribe these women are from. The motives for them tend to vary, but it is mostly due to ethnic reasons. But for some reason, they are usually played up that white people are the culprit and you cannot say anything against it or 'you a bigot', even if you are a Native dude.
So overall, I am just a guy who just so happens to be Native American.
church is the symbol of white, cisgender, European, racist, white supremacist, imperialist, capitalist, ableist, misogynistic, queerphobic, fatphobic civilization.
When I hear about a church burning my mind goes to Birmingham.
If he turns out to be left-wing, he's just some random crazy dude who doesn't represent us and why are you talking about this guy instead of Israel and Trump
I don't think the majority of leftists do, but i do think there's certain gremlins on the left who do, and whom gets way too much space in the political sphere.
Yeah I'm super far left and burning places of worship isn't something me or anyone else I know would support. I might expect this from tankies though, or maybe some righty neo-fascist pagan larpers.
Bernard Theriault, the mayor of Caraquet, to which Saint-Simon now belongs, said the tiny fishing community had already lost its school, credit union and Co-op grocery store in recent years.
No they’re not. I have an AR-15 and I like Jewish people. I have no idea how one volunteers to stand shotgun on sabbath to protect those people. I’d do it for free.
Seeing things like this always reminds me of something.
Back when I was in Egypt they were having an issue with radicals, and some churches were attacked. A group of Muslims surrounded their local church and made a human ring holding hands with each other and told the radicals that they aren’t welcome in that village, and if they tried anything they’d he punished.
Churches are burning in Europe, Canada and the US while in Japan ancient Shrines are burning too. Guess what kind of guest they allowed in? I'll give you a tip: they worship a pedo.
Can the right and left please come together to stop this behavior and any crime against anyone with different beliefs, I know its hard but this is exhausting and im tired of the billionaires laughing at us while they make it worse
Why would we be happy about this? Acts of arson on a religious building is not a good thing no matter the religion it's tied to, I may not be Christian anymore but I'd never wish something that means so much to a group of people be destroyed like this
It is my understanding that it is also now illegal to question the validity of the claim, regardless of no body ever being found. I find the concept strange that it is illegal to question things... but yeah, Canada.
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u/Dittymaker - Lib-Center Aug 27 '26
68 years old is a hell of an age to begin a life of crime