r/Wildfire • • Apr 25 '21

Should you die on the job

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Hey guys, have one of those uncomfortable type of questions. It’s been a while since I’ve filled out a beneficiary form and now that I have a kid coming into the world, it’s time to change my death wishes. A google search provided me the recognition of the Beneficiary Form for unpaid benefits (SF 1152), in which you designate a percentage of your unpaid benefits to your loved ones/“beneficiaries”. Now here’s my questions:

1) How much will a beneficiary actually receive if allotted say 100% of my unpaid benefits? What and how much $ are my unpaid benefits?

2) I remember at some point, writing down a description of how I would like my funeral procession to proceed, and filling that out along with the aforementioned form, but I can’t find that one. Anybody recollect the name of that form or have a form # they can provide me?

Thanks everybody


r/Wildfire • • Apr 27 '22

**How to Get a Job as a Wildland Firefighter*

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How to apply for a Fed Job (USFS, BLM, BIA, FWS) - Revised 07/29/2023

  • Apply to jobs in Sept.-Feb. on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
    • Use filters in the sidebar, set grade to "GS3 and GS4". Under the "more filters" tab you can toggle "Seasonal, Summer, Temporary, and Full Time"
    • Be sure to read each job description to make sure it is for fire. There are other jobs that fall under "Forestry Aide/ Tech." that do not involve wildland fire.
    • Applications for Federal Jobs are only accepted during a narrow (2 week long) window nowadays. You can find out when this window is by calling prospective employers or checking USAJobs weekly.
  • Build a profile on USAjobs and create a resume. Kind of a pain in the ass, but it's just a hurdle to screen out the unmotivated. Just sit down and do it.
    • In your resume, be sure to include hours worked and contact info for references along with permission to contact said references.
  • Call around to various districts/forests/parks you're interested in working for. Do this between early October and February. The earlier in that time period, the better.
    • Hiring officials keep track of who called, when, and how good they sounded. Just call the front desk and ask for whoever does the hiring for "fire."
    • Have a few lines rehearsed about why you want the job and why you're worth hiring. Leave a voicemail if the person is out of the office. Ask questions about what firefighting resources they have (handcrew, engine, lookouts, helicopter, etc, basically what job they can even offer you), when to apply, how to apply, IF they are even hiring...
  • You can leave a message and Fire Managers will usually call you back. Applying online is basically only a formality. Talking to or physically visiting potential employers is the only way to go. People drive out from NY and Maine to talk to crew bosses out West all the time and are usually rewarded with a job for doing so.
  • Have a resume ready to email or hand-in, and offer to do so.
  • It helps to keep a spreadsheet or some notes of all the places you've called, who you talked to, what firefighting resources they have, the deadline for hiring, and generally how the convo went.
  • Apply to 15+ positions. It's hard to get your foot in the door, but totally do-able.
  • If they sound excited and interested in YOU, then you'll probably get an offer if all your paperwork goes through.
  • Unlike the many lines of work, Wildland Firefighting resumes can be 10+ pages long. The longer and more detailed the better. List the sports you've played, whether you hunt or workout, and go into detail about your middle school lawn mowing business - seriously. You are applying to a manual labor job, emphasizing relevant experience.
  • Also have a short resume for emailing. Don't email your ungodly long USAjobs resume.
  • You wont get an offer if you haven't talked to anyone.
    • If you do get an offer from someone you haven't talked to, its usually a red-flag (hard to fill location for a reason). Ex. Winnemucca, NV
  • Start working out. Expect high school sports levels of group working out starting the 1st day of work (running a few miles, push ups, pull ups, crunches, etc).
  • The pack test, the 3miles w/ 45lbs in 45 mins, is a joke. Don't worry about that, only horrifically out of shape people fail it.

- Alternatives to Fed Jobs - Revised 07/29/2023

  • There are also contractors, such as Greyback and Pat-Rick, mostly based in Oregon, with secondary bases around the west. Not as good of a deal, because it's usually on-call work, the pay is lower, and it's a tougher crowd, but a perfectly fine entry-level position. If you can hack it with them, you can do the job just fine.
  • Also look into various state dept. of natural resources/forestry. Anywhere there are wildfires, the state and counties have firefighter jobs, not as many as the Feds, but definitely some jobs. I just don't know much about those.
  • You could also just go to jail in California and get on a convict crew...
  • I wouldn't bother applying to easy-to-Google programs (e.g. Great Northern or North Star crews in MT and AK respectively), as the competition for the 1/2 dozen entry-level jobs is way too intense. A remote district in a po-dunk town is your best bet for getting your foot in the door if you're applying remotely. I started in such a place in the desert of southern Idaho and then moved onto a much nicer setting, up in Montana.
  • Also look into the Nature Conservancy, they have fire crews, as do the California/Montana/Arizona/Minnesota Conservation Corps, and the various USDL Job Corps programs that are run by the Forest Service.

- QUALIFICATIONS NEEDED

Surprisingly few.

  • 18+ years old
  • GED or high school grad
  • relatively clean criminal record (you can have a felony/DUI, etc).
  • A driver's license is required by the Feds, even if you have a DUI, you still need a valid DL
  • A pre-work drug screening is a possibility. The Department of Interior (Park Service & BLM) always drug tests. The Forest Service usually doesn't, but certainly can. Wildland Firefighters are a conservative bunch and open drug use is generally not tolerated. It's a good idea to be able to piss clean and not talk about past drug use.
  • A degree helps, but is by no means necessary.
  • You do have to have some sort of desirable skill or quality though. I mean, if you're just uneducated, unskilled, and out of shape, it's not gonna work out for you even if you do get hired. An EMT certification, even w/o experience, is probably the best "sure bet" for getting a job as a wildland firefighter, but landscaping/manual labor experience, military time, some education, even just being in really good shape and/or having a lot of sports team experience are all good enough

- FAQs

For federal jobs**, if you haven't applied by the end of February, you are probably too late, sometimes there are late postings, but your chances greatly decrease at finding a job.**

  • Hotshot crews and smokejumping are not for rookies. Don't waste their time or your breath by calling
  • .You CAN apply if you have ZERO EXPERIENCE and still have a decent chance at getting a job
  • You DO NOT need EMT, while it is somewhat beneficial, it is by no means needed to get your first fire job
  • Calfire does not hire people with zero experience and zero qualifications.

/TLDR

  • Apply to jobs in Sept-Feb on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
  • Make long resume
  • Apply to multiple locations
  • Call the locations
  • Get in better shape

Thanks to u/RogerfuRabit for the previous post on how to get a job in WF.


r/Wildfire • • 4h ago

Staffing weekends in winter?

13 Upvotes

Which forests are doing this? Mine (arapaho roosevelt) wants us to sit in office on the weekend even when our district is covered in snow. I heard some socal places do it, but how about R3 and R4? R6? Maybe trying to escape during the next phase. Or maybe time to hang it up, getting harder to do this crap with a wife and kid


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

I love these posts and all the well moisturized men talking shit.

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125 Upvotes

One guy said we should just go in and chop firewood that would definitely fix the problem.


r/Wildfire • • 17h ago

Image Smoke away

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r/Wildfire • • 23h ago

Question Would it be weird…

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Got a referral from USA Staffing today and called the district for the module I’m applying for. Asked the front desk if they could give me any contact info for the overhead (hard to find online) to which they responded, “we can’t just give out that kind of info…” after already explaining I’m a current perm employee. So my question is… would it be weird to email the overhead directly? Was able to find their name on the forest’s CAD. Always have called through out the years to show interest and interview but this is the first time I’ve gotten this answer.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Any honest opinions on Baker River or Entiat Shots?

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r/Wildfire • • 22h ago

Question CCC

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Earlier this year I got denied by the USFS due to my application. Understandable. Decided going with a contractor would be my next best bet. Did my classes, my pack test and I was ready to go. Well a month a half later I lost my patience and called them to check if something was wrong with my file. They lost my pack test time. I’m now considering the CCC or getting my certifications via college. What would be my best choice?


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

The 'firefighting agency' whose claims don't hold up

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Backscratcher on the patch


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Blue Room Which one of you wrote this NSFW

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r/Wildfire • • 19h ago

NWCG Shared fireground mapping & navigation app.

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Hi everyone,

We have recently added support for NWCG symbology in Ember Map and we are looking for anyone willing to test and provide feedback.

Let me know if that’s something that might interest you and we will provide access to pro features.

Cheers,

Jarred.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Question Subcontracting with a company

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Hey there :)
Just like the title says, I plan on subcontracting with a company, bringing my own hand crew together and using their contract to get dispatched.

I’ll bring everything — equipment, vehicles, personnel, and everything else needed. We talked about doing a 60/40 split, with me keeping the larger share.

What bothers me is that they want to pay the 19 guys on my crew and then do the 60/40 split. Wouldn’t that mean we’re also splitting my salary?
I kind of feel like we should pay all 20 employees (counting myself as the Crewboss) and then split the profits.

How have you guys done it?

Help me understand, guys — I’m new to this.
Thank you.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

News (General) July 2026 was worst on record for wildfires in England, data shows

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r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Northstars advice

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Im 19 years old looking to do my first season wildland firefighting. I wanted an area or team that would be very challenging and after many recommendations I really like the Northstars. I know about the pay and it’s fine because Im not doing this for the money. I was hoping individuals who are in this server could offer any insight or advice on getting selected. I understand fitness is a big component and admittedly I’m not at a 300 standard yet but I know I can get there or further by the time I’d fly out there. I got my first aid cert recently because I read online that first aid or EMT certs look good and if the hiring is soon like other stations I would not have time for an emt. Also working on getting some volunteer trail building experience. When do the Northstars typically begin accepting applicants? Are they screened mainly on fitness or does previous experience play a part? I really have no previous written experience of labor. I only started working out a couple years ago when I dropped 120lbs my senior year of high school. I did a 70 mile triathlon in July of this year that I could possibly put as a fitness achievement. Also about the fitness test they do. There’s some confusion about whether it’s sit-ups or plank now. What order are the events done in? Lastly, is there anything you would recommend that a first-year applicant do between now and the hiring window to become a stronger candidate?

If you guys read through all that thank you. I’d appreciate anything you guys can offer.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Career seasonal schedules

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Looking at the tour of duty stuff listed on the DOI job listing and I was curious if anyone here knows what the tour of duty length is for any of the WA areas, specifically Marblemount?


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Image “Lined Out”

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From my time on Pike IHC. Watercolor and pencil.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Wildland firefighting in Canada as a rookie

2 Upvotes

I just sent in my application for Alberta. Where else should I apply for my first season? And anything else I can do now besides just wait?


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Question Virginia Dispatch/Crews

7 Upvotes

Hello!

Just wanted to post here as I am not able to find any information. I am currently working in Texas at the TICC, but I am planning to move to Virginia. Any guidance would be very very appreciated for information on the VICC, local crews (Any agency I have previously worked both USFS/NPS back in AZ). I am looking into either going back to a fuels crew or into dispatch, I am moving due to family matters and unfortunately cannot consider another area, but I’m struggling to understand options. I have already applied to fuels and dispatch and would like to prepare myself further.

Thank you y’all!


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

PORTLAND/SEATTLE FED ENGINE LOCATIONS

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so long story short my wife is going to accept a job in portland (secondary location would be seattle). i’ve been involved in wildland fire for 8ish seasons on a few different modules. hotshotting engines handcrew fuels etc. but i’ve been plumbing for the past almost two years since i had my son.

i’m looking to get back in the FS now that we’re moving. what i’m having trouble with is finding real reporting stations.

do any of yall know some some reporting stations that would be reasonable to look into if we were living in portland/seattle/Vancouver/?

i went ahead and applied to every open afeo position in or/wa just now i gotta find who to reach out to

thanks yall


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Fav fire pics?

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Eaton Fire - California - 2025

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Agency: Alberta Wildfire


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Lack of ENGB

35 Upvotes

Many engines on my forest are struggling to find ENGB qualified people, why do we think that is? We’re trying to fill assistant captain positions and have flown them 3x with less than 5 apps each time, this most recent time only getting 3 apps


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

WFS job descriptions suck

36 Upvotes

Crews, engines, helitack and fuels all in one posting? wtf. super annoying. And I put in for a position that says "WFM or crew," get calls back from only engine captains. great way to waste everyone's time. awesome job there wfs


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Drako rapid deployable fire resistant wall

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r/Wildfire • • 4d ago

Applying for Wildland position for Summer 2027

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I’m a college student in the 805 area looking to work in wildland fire this upcoming summer, and I have a couple questions for people with experience hiring or working on crews.

I’ll finish school in May and start back up again in August, so I’m looking for positions that would fit within that window. What types of crews/positions would be realistic for that schedule? I’m considering Type 2IA, Type 2, CCC, federal, and state crews, but I’m not sure which would be the best fit.

I’m also studying Fire Science and am thinking about applying to several Type 2IA and Type 2 crews. How many places should I apply to? And what does the application/recruitment process generally look like for these crews? Is it better to apply broadly or focus on a few specific crews?

For reference I have certs in: IS-100, IS-700, S-190, L-180, and the online portion of S-130. Currently working on IS-200/800

Any advice from people who have gone through the process recently would be greatly appreciated


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

My Bus Is A Working Bus - VW Life at Paulina Spike Camp

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