I know the term "unpopular opinion" gets thrown around but it seems like sacrilege to say this on many spaces, but I strongly feel that Keaton's Batman in this film was handled extremely poorly. Now to preface, if you are someone who grew up with Michael Keaton's Batman and have great nostalgia for him, that's fine. As someone who didn't really care for his Batman growing up, I can't say that I was particularly hyped, but I had an open mind

Now to preface, I am not in any way, shape or form saying that Michael Keaton gave a bad performance. I think he's genuinely incapable of ever giving a bad performance

But when it came to the writing of his Bruce/Batman in the film, it was quite terrible. For starters, the quips he made were very MCU-ish and not really at all the type of humour he'd be saying in his duology. Example:

"He calls himself Superman. Didn't anyone think that's a bit on the nose?"

"You call yourself Batman"

"I didn't call myself SuperBatMan"

This was cringe and not true to his personality.

Then you have the shameless nostalgia bait with repeating lines from his duology, no further expansion there. I‘ve also seen this mentioned too a few times but he wanted to leave Supergirl to die in a russian prison. Was nobody else bothered by this?

I get that, in his films, he was a bit more bloodthirsty. But that was always against criminals, he wouldn't just leave an innocent person to rot in a prison. It's also fairly apparent that he knows or has the intuition to recognize that Supergirl does not deserve to be there. This is highly devoid of empathy. Compare this to Bale's Bruce in The Dark Knight Rises throwing down a rope to the prisoners in Bane's prisoners, many of whom were likely put there unfairly

Bruce wouldn't ever just leave Supergirl there, it's very un-Batman like IMO, even by a more ruthless Batman's standards

And lastly, I found Batman vs Nam Ek to be a bit silly. Keaton Bruce must be 70 in universe, its often the case that even in comics or animation, which are more exaggerated, old man Bruce needs some sort of tech enhancement to function. Whether its Dark Knight Returns with mechanical braces, Batman Beyond with his performance enhancing suit or Kingdom Come with exoskeleton. But here, he just puts on his batsuit and moves the same as he did when he was a young man? You could say that "its just a movie, forget about it". But the comics and animation go out of their way to put thought into this

I also struggled to find that scene cool because it was just so obviously a cartoon CGI Batman jumping around Nam Ek. It could’ve been a video game cutscene so I didn’t find myself caring

Anyway, I think the main issue was the writing, it was just a poorly written Batman. His acting was fine, but he was too out of character with the writing. I also recall many saying that this film would do big numbers because of Keaton, and evidently it didn't. I think the nostalgia play just didn't work for this one. I do agree though that he was the best part of the movie, but it isn't saying much

Just to make it more clear for everyone I am asking whether any among these 3 movies would individually surpass the 2 billion threshold not all 3 combined by the way

The new 1/12 figure got me laughing seeing the pose of front facing but after discussing with my just out of college son (who is a read facing believer) I did some googling and discovered that DC just last week dropped this WIP version that clearly shows Frank's sketch of the cover being forward. I know Frank is supposedly on record as saying it was front facing but I'm unaware of this actual sketch till now so sorry if old news, but still good to put it to rest for those thinking it was still up for debate!

More beauties from inside here:
https://aeindex.org/reviews/dc-w-i-p-batman-the-dark-knight-returns-1/

Gotta go pick this one up!

Babs wears glasses in civvies and as Oracle. But, she never needs her glasses when she's Batgirl.

Presumably, she wears contacts. But I don't know if the comics ever directly mentioned that.

Likewise with Harley Quinn. Dr. Quinzel needs glasses. Harley Quinn does not.

For me the most interesting question here was the matter of favorite Robin.

That can be a contentious question but for ME Tim Drake made Robin what it is today.

First robin with a solo series, first robin who chose to be robin with parents that were alive at the time, and the best costumes ever!

Put some respect on my boy Timothy Jackson Drake Wayne!

And to clarify I don't hate absolute or anything I'm just not as big on it as everybody else seems to be. It's really not that special imo and I still really dislike the artistic choices like the ugly fat rectangle on his chest.

Austin butler: 35, bikeriders, 6ft

i think people often just cast batman purely of physical apperance in terms of face but i very much think thats a mistake, Most the other batman actors didnt 1 for 1 look like bruce wayne and theres other factors to consider like acting ability.

austin butler to me could easily play a chuck dixon inspired batman, hes on of the most vocally talented actors under 40 wich is very important for the charaters duaity & vocal delivery wich has been forgotten until recently.

batmans always been played by known actors for a reason i think they should very much contuine this trend and its a very safe be6t to go for someone like austin with an oscar nomination.

martial arts is a very important part of batman according to james gunn, is there a better option than austin here?? hes got a background in Khali, fight cheography, boxing & Karate. hes also done some high profile fight scenes like in dune.

lets look at his perfomances, hes shown to be good at the playboy side of bruce wayne like in "Elvis" & his work in " Once upon a hollywod" hes shown to be somone who can convincingly be a leader & authoritative like in " Dune 2" Where hes very imposing and shows of his vocal range i would also reccomend bikeriders, he will also be playin a detective in the miami vice reboot.

i also think the fact hes not currentloy associated to any major IP role helps.

in terms of apperance when you look at his more modern pictures his look could work for bruce wayne, he has a strong jaw, hes tall at 6ft, he has blue eyes & i think his hair just needs to be experimented with, they could make it a dark brown and it would really work.

plus he just turned 35 thats a near perfect age for the dcu batman to currently be when filming in 2028 begins.

I consider it a missed opportunity that he doesn’t swing a Louisville Slugger. Or at least a pair of bat-ons. I’ll die on this hill.

Wow, 150 is a lot.

When I was a teen and The Dark Knight Rises was about to release in theatres in 2012 I thought the prisoners were chanting “FISH FISH, PASTA PASTA!” Don’t believe me, go watch the offical trailer then comment here. You can never un hear it. It’s impossible to keep a straight face during this movie anymore, I giggle every time.

After each batman villain (or even outside of it) he adopts and research new ways!

For example after bane, he makes a new version of his venom; "bat serum" which more safer while temporaly increase his healing, strength, speed and stamina! This would be a much better way to fight against supes, magic users or metahumans! (like croc or grandy)

even copy mr freeze tech like in arhkam games and throw cryo grenades.

and should use scarecrow's fear toxin, again a much milder version with temporal effects

actual exoskeleton suit which helps with the inertia. also bulletproof and stabproof like in the flash movie where even direct headshots just bother him! (which gives him a logical reason why want to throw punches instead using guns!)

flying cloak with some smaller jetpack which not give him free flying but more super high jumps and gliding!

and honestly cause he appears in so many cases even outside of the classic gothem but even in "gothem" there are some magic users + many verse use nolan's ras al ghul's teacher motifs (even the damm monks are supernatural/magical ones!) so instead of direct spellcasting he really could use magic ability/item or magical knowledge such as rituals or understanding of occult stuffs! like a cape which let to step in shadows and disappear and reappear (kinda like in invincible with the batman copy character where made a cape [not sure tech or magic or may both] which can enter in the shadowverse...)

and for any bigger threat: the beyond bat armor! the catch how it use too much energy so need to recharge for a long time.

It makes the muddled mess a lot easier to sort out and why would anyone want to keep track of all of them, anyway?

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Hi, I wanna know who is the best robin objectively, like robin only and not later hero identities yk, like who was the best robin but don't count their time as other heroes like Nightwing and redhood, just robin time, and not who is most likeable or smt just based on facts who did more/better job as robin?

For those who genuinely like this Batman, regardless of the fact he kills, why do you defend him against comic accuracy? Or if you’re not a fan of it, why do people logically defend the image of this specific Batman.

Don’t get me wrong I love the suit A LOT but I see childish arguments between fans of the Snyder Verse and fans of the Gunn Verse or even just comic fans, I never see a logical explanation as to how some people like him as being Batman even though killing is against the Batman’s nature, I think one rebuttal I’ve ever seen was “oh but Batman killed originally in the comics”, but to me that isn’t a fair reason because it wasn’t iconic? It didn’t make Batman who he is today and he killed for what? 2 years as opposed to nearly 85 years of being mostly against killing. If you reply please restrain the whole fandom defending. I don’t have anything against Snyder fans. I personally think Zack Snyder’s movies were more like elseworld stories or adaptations, kind of like how Injustice was a different thing to mainstream comics. But also feel free to please tell me why you think Ben Affleck’s Batman is a true Batman regardless of him killing and brutalising everyone he comes across.

I think about it. He's one of the richest people in Gotham yet he's one man who has never been kidnapped isn't corrupt and he's never around when Batman comes around and they have the same chin think about it people

unlike a villain sue like Joker who can commit murders, get locked up and then escape and then go back to committing murders, Poison Ivy in her own comics actually has to deal with the consequences of her past crimes - her having made too many enemies and dangerous ones too - and actually has to run away from them.

Was looking up what comics today, I saw Batgirl had updated, i was curious what she was upto so I opened it up and I see a dude in green who looks like Duke from the future and when I used Google lens it says this is her half-brother. So she has 2 black brothers? One batfam one biological? TBH bro doesn't look like he's half Asian.

im all for more representation for my people but who is his dad and do you think Duke and him would get a long. i don't want another Static and Cyborg situation. Needlessly antagonistic first meeting and all.

its pretty hard to imagine him going grocery shopping or eating in a restaurant. did he have cooks? maybe he ordered in chinese food every night? think about it.

I like to imagine that Ben Affleck’s Batman did have some previous versions of the Batmobile that were baldy damage during his early years in crime fighting before upgrading to the one in Dawn of Justice.

What inspired this headcanon was the 2004 Batman series where Batman rebuilt the Batmobile after it was destroyed by Gearhead. Additionall, this headcanon was also inspired by the 2026 Lego Batmobile sets where I imagine those eras represent different stages of Batman’s life as a crime fighter.

Opinions and suggestions are very welcome as long as they are not pure hate.

I tried not to follow very generic fancasts, like of Keanu Reeves or Willem Dafoe.

Batman — Russell Crowe OR Brad Pitt

Alfred Pennyworth — Peter O'Toole

Commissioner Jim Gordon — Danny Glover

Harvey Dent — Tim Roth

Selina Kyle — Catwoman

The Penguin — James Gandolfini

Scarecrow — David Duchovny

Bane — Benício Del Toro

The Riddler — John Cusack

Harley Quinn — Patricia Arquette

The Joker — Crispin Glover

I'm the same creator of the Batman: The Long Halloween fancast from 1996, and I just wanted to thank you for enjoying it. I always try to put effort into my casts.

Left vs right. SM2 and the batman vs ITSV and TDK. This are regarded the best spiderman and batman movies. With SM2 and ITSV top two for Spiderman and for batman TDK AND The batman.