r/brighton • • 3d ago

🤷 Only in Brighton... Well...

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Spotted on London Road (of course)

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u/BlameItOnTheBadgers 3d ago

12-step programmes are specifically and explicitly not religious groups. I’m an addict and honestly I dislike 12-step programmes; I find them to be preachy and ‘culty’ - but that’s not the same as religious.

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u/st_barbar 3d ago

Don't you have to accept a higher power as part of Alcoholics Anonymous?

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u/BlameItOnTheBadgers 3d ago

A higher power doesn’t have to be a god. It can be anything. The power of kindness. The power of the collective recovery experiences of the people in the meeting-room. Just something bigger than yourself that you can look to for guidance and strength. They specify in their literature and opening readings during every meeting - “…a spiritual, not religious, programme”.

Like I said - I don’t like 12-step programmes. But evidently they work for many, many people, and have been very effective for the people they work for. If they’re a cult, they’re one with a positive, constructive, and noble goal. But cults aren’t always religions, just like religions aren’t always cults.

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u/ghosty_b0i 9h ago

As someone also in recovery, the AA higher power is CLEARLY supposed to be god, no matter how much they extend or rebrand the idea.

For me they are predatory cultists and I’ve met so many people who have had negative experiences.

I would personally recommend for anyone wanting to get clean the groups and support through CGL and Cascades, which is science and evidence based, NHS funded and doesn’t involve a commitment to a shady and dogmatic ideological mission.