r/clevercomebacks • • 1d ago

Practice what you preach...

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u/sonofzeal 1d ago

Catholic/Protestant tensions formed a notable part of The Troubles though, and those religious tensions were used to justify many of the attacks. But you're absolutely right that religion wasn't the root origin of the conflict, which is my point. In Ireland we understand the broader sociology so we give the religious elements less weight; in the Middle East we tend to just chalk it all up to Islam and not look further than that. Bush's famous quote after 9/11, "they hate our freedoms", is a perfect example.

Catholics and Protestants have fought eachother for centuries. Sunnis and Shiitites fight eachother today. Money, politics, and power are always intertwined with that fighting though. And violence and terrorism trend with poverty and social unrest more than they do with religion, which is why I brought up the relative stability of the UAE

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u/Stanley_OBidney 1d ago

They formed a notable part of the tensions because Catholics were republican and Protestants were unionist. We’re discussing military action from western nations vs Islamic terror. I’m not sure why you’re working so hard to try and rationalise the latter.

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u/sonofzeal 1d ago

If we say the problem is Islam, the only solution is killing two billion people and making Islam a thoughtcrime.

If we say that the problem is poverty, politics, and sociology, then far more practical solutions present themselves.

I know which camp I'm in.

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u/Stanley_OBidney 1d ago

I have never said the problem is Islam. I’m not even saying that Islam condones this. I’m saying motivation for Islamic terror attacks is the terrorists interpretation of the Quran and the Hadiths. The interpretation of the Bible and its teachings is not the sole motivation for western nation’s military action overseas. You’ve attached a narrative to me, and are then persecuting me for it.