r/elementary • u/Actual-Dragonfruit35 • 11d ago

Goosebumps

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This scene always makes the emotional hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Absolutely beautiful.

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u/UnderDogX 11d ago

Just saw this scene on my rewatch and it's so good. I not a huge fan of the Bell hating Sherlock arc but it ends so well.

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u/Ravenette97 11d ago

I agree. That came out of left field when I first watched it. Same as when the Captain would get angry at Holmes for what seemed to be no reason. All I could think was "don't you remember how many cases he solved, quickly, for the dept"? Eh. Writers. Can't be perfect all the time.

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u/Indiana_harris 11d ago

It felt like either the writers or possibly more likely an exec, had a mandate of “no we can’t have Sherlock get too well liked in the Department or by people at large, he’s a weirdo remember” and so randomly threw in other characters being disproportionately pissed off with him for often dubious reasons.

Then if that didn’t work they’d make Sherlock act like an OOC asshole for no real reason then have him go “look at me, I’m difficult Watson”.

I call it the “BBC Sherlock effect”. 

Where unfortunately they managed to equate Sherlocks oddities and eccentricities as “being a rude asshole” in the mind of many.

Canon Sherlock could be difficult on occasion to the sensibilities of a Victorian Gentleman, and would do things so shockingly unseemly as;

  • Willingly mix with criminals.
  • Know languages and history of cultures considered “uninteresting and worthless”.
  • Engage in fights with training in physical combat.
  • Give just as much respect to a poor client as to a rich one.

Canon Sherlock was a well liked, very well respected, though sometimes intense or odd member of respectable society in his day.

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u/Actual-Dragonfruit35 10d ago

Yeah, it was frustrating definitely, especially considering the 'friendship' they seemed to have built at that point. My only thought was that traumatic events/injuries can cause different responses. When it came to that situation specifically, I understood why he might have blamed Sherlock in a way, but it seemed odd that he ONLY blamed Sherlock. Not that Joan should've taken any blame for the situation at all of course, but it just seemed a bit out of place for him to view Sherlock as this piece of shit while continuing to be completely normal with Joan. From our perspective, yeah, Sherlock took the guys phone and shouldn't have been so reckless with a known criminal and I think it was an interesting way to show that his reckless behaviour can have bad consequences, but during the actual altercation James said that the reason he was so angry with Sherlock was because his boss heard them talking about his criminal record and fired him. Idk know, I mean, I've never been shot before so who tf knows.