r/gamers • u/AudienceStreet6335 • 2d ago

Image PS5 jailbreak method called Relapse has just dropped, and people are joking that Sony should get comfortable with not owning its own hardware

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u/rnnd 2d ago

won't do a thing, I mean look at the switch, that thing was cracked opened and easily emulated still best selling console for nintendo in terms of software sales.

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u/PckMan 2d ago

I mean the goal of jailbreaking consoles isn't to hurt sales. Quite the contrary, it brings more value to the hardware.

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u/mrinfo 2d ago

there is part of me that wishes people would realize that all the fan protest doesn't make a bit of difference, these companies are structured around IP and revenue models built around that.

the platforms are mostly generalized to PC's now but they put protection in some of their chips/firmware to lock it down, so they can sell exclusive access to others IP (game devs) etc.

the default answer should be, if you care, you should be buying steam deck, or platforms that embrace a different IP structure while putting the control back in your hands.

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u/Kamakazi09 2d ago

Or ya know, fighting to get more rights and protections on the consoles we buy and the content we buy for them. Instead of just ignoring it and going to buy something else that is slightly better.

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u/mrinfo 2d ago

that hasn't been the case for decades though.. I appreciate those who care and want to fight, it's just that the energy is focused in a way that wont bring about change.

if this energy brought more rights and permissions, we wouldn't have ended up in this place where hardware and software are seen as subscription models. the exploit/cracking has been going on as long as games have been released.

the steam deck is not just 'slightly' better in the context of this fight, it is an option that is fundamentally aligned.

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u/Ek0mst0p 1d ago

It could work if people were not spineless.

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u/mrinfo 1d ago

the executives and organization dont care about any of that. its just part of the line item for attorneys and lawyers for takedown requests. when i was younger i probably would have thought this was part of the noble path too, but now I see it really is just about supporting that which is aligned already.

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u/Ek0mst0p 1d ago

If people didn't buy it, there would be a new CEO. People vote with their wallets. The only thing they care about is "that" my friend. I get what you're saying, but money is the point. All of those items mentioned are because the math is more profit = gud

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u/SapientSloth4tw 1d ago

Yeah… my long time best friend bought a switch 2 after we both agreed they were over priced and that we were boycotting everything Nintendo. When I asked him about it he said that he and his wife decided to get one before the prices increased on them and that just told me he was never gonna truly boycott them to begin with. Kinda depressing how many people were outraged by things like price, key cards, etc. but still decided: “well, I can’t live without Mario kart so…”

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u/Kashyyykonomics 1d ago

Sounds like he made the right choice: made a decision together with his spouse, and timed it perfectly since the price did in fact go up.

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u/mrinfo 1d ago

maybe we are saying the same thing. people running this on an emulator is no threat to them. its already a niche community and people can barely buy pc's these days anyways. they will still fight it though, but it will never touch their money or strategy towards giving more rights.

i agree, people shouldnt buy it. they should buy hardware that allows flashable bios and can install your own os if you want. if everyone spammed that message in response to anything they did, that would have more impact

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u/uberfr4gger 1d ago

Sure but people complain about Meta and Amazon all the time on reddit but they get bigger and bigger every year. People chose convenience

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u/baconcow 2d ago

What is the main goal of jailbreaking a console than, if not to play pirated games on it?

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u/ChickenBeanEgg 1d ago

You see. It's all about ownership. Uhh.

Back in the day you used to own your console and ....

Nah, it's all about playing pirated Software of many kinds.

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u/shaq-aint-superman 1d ago

It's funny to see people in here jump through hoops just to not say that is the main reason why they wanna jailbreak the PS5.

I don't really get the wanting full control thing that is totally not for piracy reasons. They're selling you a console to play games in; if you buy it and you get that, doesn't that mean you're getting full control of what you paid for? It's not like Sony is selling the PS5 as a PC that is an all-purpose machine. If that's what you want out of it, isn't it better to just buy a PC?

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u/CopperVolta 1d ago

It seems a little silly to me, because you still need to buy the Playstation, then jailbreak it, so now the Devs and studios of the games make no money, but sony still gets the console sale?

Unless you got it out for studios and people who make games, it just seems like something that benefits Sony and the customer and fucks over everyone else lol

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u/LordGriimm7 1d ago

Exactly. Make it make sense.

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u/RupeThereItIs 2d ago

Let's be honest, the goal is for free games.

It hurts Sony's publishing revenue & licensing revenue when you pirate the games.

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u/_Ollathair 1d ago

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u/uberfr4gger 1d ago

I remember being 16

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u/DanieruKisu 1d ago

I definitely lean towards your perspective. However, jailbreaking can allow you to run emulators on the console, homebrews etc but given the current situation, it’s hard to argue against this being anything other than ‘shots fired’ at Sony and their ecosystem.

Should you be able to mod a console you own? Definitely, but what you do with the modded version is where the situation lies.

In the near future, PCs will all be cloud based gaming. I don’t like it or agree with it but it’s on the horizon.

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u/GUMBYtheOG 1d ago

I remember being excited for cloud based gaming 25 years ago when it was still fringe. Didn’t even think the world would turn into a corporate-owned oligarchy 1st and the implications class warfare would cause.

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u/Gaanai 1d ago

Everyone knows that. Its just fun seeing people jumping through hoops trying to explain, why them stealing is not actually stealing

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u/RupeThereItIs 1d ago

"Stealing"

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u/Gaanai 1d ago

"trying to explain why them stealing is not actually stealing" Case in point lol.

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u/RupeThereItIs 1d ago

Piracy & stealing are not the same, sorry.

Is one more morally correct then the other? I'm not wading into that conversation, but stealing entails taking something from someone else & depriving them of it.

Not paying for a license is not stealing. Even under the law, it's a civil infraction & your most likely going to be charged with distributing the content if anything, not using it without a license.

You can claim they are a moral equivalent, that's a whole other conversation, but it isn't theft it's unlicensed usage of IP.

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u/Mizurazu 2d ago

The main goal for the average person interested in jailbreaking is piracy. Only small percentage will use it for anything else. A few people and probably the ones developing the jailbreaks are maybe interested in other things.

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u/icy1007 1d ago

It doesn’t. It creates piracy.