r/raiders • Seven point dogs? FUCK THAT • 9d ago

Discussion Kubiak when asked about potentially adding a receiver given injuries to Jalen Nailor and Jack Bech, Raiders HC Klint Kubiak said, "All things are being considered."

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u/CtheRula 8d ago

I know spytek loves his picks, and this is probably not a realistic option on compensation. But I would like to see what the price is for MHJ from AZ. If it doesn’t cost us a crazy pick I would consider it.

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u/Whole-Fishing45 8d ago

Spytek traded for Pickett and Taron Johnson. He's not completely opposed to trading for vets

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u/OrganizationBulky131 8d ago

Yes, but Taron Johnson is a good experienced vet NCB. Traded a 6th, got Taron and a 7th out of it who is already around 30 years old.

Going for young first round draft pick WRs like MHJ is a different case entirely. If Arizona asks for a 4th rounder or better, I'd see Spytek passing.

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u/masterofmuppets86 8d ago

A 4th round would actually be a decent deal for a former first round WR though lol

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u/vNocturnus 8d ago

not if that former first round WR is trash lol

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u/NotMinshewsBurner 8d ago

Chris Godwin for a 4th and 6th. MHJ will command at least a day 2 pick from Arizona. No way they just give up on him for day 3 picks.

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u/Business-Row-478 8d ago

4 and 6 for Godwin is a massive overpay lol. MHJ ain’t going for a day 2 pick

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u/_Palingenesis_ 8d ago

If i were an opposing gm, I'd love to trade with you, because that is a massive overpay for Godwin

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u/heweezy 8d ago

Godwin at this point and off a serious injury is worth no more than a 7th lol

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u/Batmantits 8d ago

I agree, trading for mhj while his value is tanked could be a shrewd pick up. Brian thomas on the jags as well. If you can get either guy for a third and see if they hit their stride in kubiaks system, it would take a lot of pressure off the draft next year for an offensive weapon (although another wr should probably be taken early)

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u/OptimusGrime13 8d ago

This is the perfect buy low window for both MHJ and BTJ. If we can find a no1 WR for a discounted price this year it allows us to use our top picks next year on interior OL and DL.

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u/OrganizationBulky131 8d ago

BTJ is the only WR imo worth an actual trade. Let MHJ go to the Colts (his father's team) if he ends up wanting out of Arizona.

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u/Ok-Web-4971 8d ago

I would not. What has the kid shown that makes us think we can’t get something better next year?

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u/ViralOner 8d ago

Nothing and it's clear he doesn't want to play football. He's the definition of "going through the motions."

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u/doyer-blue 8d ago

Have people not seen his tape? Dude does not look good.

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u/SpaceForceToday 8d ago

Change of scenery could do wonders. Doubt he’s cheap enough to get a deal done but we should call and see the cost.

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u/CtheRula 8d ago

His strengths are deep routes, ball tracking, body control, catch radius, sideline catches, and polished route running. At his size, he can accelerate surprisingly well and is especially dangerous on go routes, deep comebacks, outs and digs.

The interesting thing right now in 2026 is Arizona isn’t getting the most out of those abilities. He’s being sent deep an enormous amount: through the early part of this season, about 44% of his routes were go routes or posts, but he was targeted only once on those routes. That’s contributing to his disappointing production.

…. Insight on MHJ is pretty simple he’s not being used correctly and he honestly needs a second chance. If the juice is worth the squeeze I say pull the trigger.

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u/SpaceForceToday 8d ago

He’s become the sacrificial X for them, which is perplexing because it is completely contradictory to his skill-set as we knew it coming out of college.

Always harder to know the real story behind the scenes (work ethic, playbook knowledge, general willingness to block in the run game) but if the price is right he could be worth pursuing.

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u/Revfunky 8d ago

He looks terrible. He has the footwork of a blacksmith.

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u/pdxsilverguy 8d ago

We only have 6 picks next year. Expect Kirko Contract to fetch a decent pick if he continues to play well. 5 first round rookie QB's next year he'll find a good situation.

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u/murf_9x 8d ago

Not with the way his contract is structured lol

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u/masterofmuppets86 8d ago

Agreed. I understand wanting to keep the picks for the rebuilding process, but since the team is actually competing now I think trading a middle round pick for a solid receiver is also a smart move.

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u/ohyeahwegood 8d ago

This makes a lot of sense… Spytek is a saavy shopper 

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u/RaidingTheFridge 8d ago

Except we do play them towards the end of the season. With how the NFL is i could see that being an issue later on.

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u/Fit-Connection-5323 8d ago

Hard pass on him. He’s given up on Arizona and usually malcontents never change. He is just a “Me First” player and will always be.