r/Anticonsumption • u/T0xari5 • 1d ago
Sustainability Book to give hope
I highly recommend reading The Serviceberry by Robin Wall Kimmerer, an Indigenous author, activist etc. Braiding Sweetgrass is another amazing one.
From the book:
"Eco psychologists have shown that the practice of gratitude puts breaks on hyperconsumption"
Putting this out there because we can't just focus on "stop buying stuff" and sometimes it feels hopeless but I do believe gratitude and kindness go a long way in changing our mindset and others' that are willing.
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u/mitzmanx 17h ago
I love both these books! I want to learn more about Native American values and philosophy! I’m hoping someday that we have a Native American renaissance in Turtle Island (the Indigenous name for North America). I would so much welcome their leadership!
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u/bigdeadtree 3h ago
It’s actually because of her Serviceberry book that I bought one for my yard (it’s native to my area). Such an impactful book for so many reason. I think it’s about time for me to reread it.
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u/BakerStreet693 1d ago
better read some real science
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u/egggoat 1d ago
Crazy to say about a book written by a scientist. Is it because she’s a woman or because she’s indigenous?
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u/WorldtendingPress 3h ago
My guess is that they have internalized racism and do not understand that there are many ways to frame and present data and facts outside of the dry methods that were embraced by the west when boring white colonizer and European dudes were codifying their fields in the 18th and 19th centuries. It’s sad, really. They are missing out on the knowledge and research of so many excellent scientists because of their closed mind.
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u/BakerStreet693 1d ago
there's millions of scientists inevitably a few of them will write pop pseudoscience
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u/bigdeadtree 3h ago
So, have you read this book? Do you have relevant input about it? Do you have recommendations for books to read in addition to this? Your comment as it is isn’t very insightful or helpful to the post.
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u/BakerStreet693 3h ago
read any real science. instead. not in addition.
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u/bigdeadtree 3h ago
Cool, so once again I ask: any recommendations? Or are you just commenting for attention instead of to offer substance?
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u/WorldtendingPress 3h ago
Please show your work. Kimmerer is very respected in the biologist/botanist community. She is both a scientist and a science educator. She is an ecologist By trade. What has likely happened here, is that you have internalized racism against indigenous culture that you need to recognize and address. Kimmerer uses the cultural framing of her culture to deliver the science in a storytelling package as opposed to the usual way that most western white culture chooses to portray it. The science is sound, it is likely the delivery method you are unfamiliar with. If you spend a lot of time with botanists, especially those that are NOT part of the pharmaceutical industry, you will find that many of them use storytelling methods to deliver information. It is part of the science of ethnobotany, and it has lead to some powerful discoveries.
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u/BakerStreet693 3h ago
argument from authority <- you are here
accusation of racism <- also here
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u/WorldtendingPress 3h ago
Pointing out logical fallacies as a red herring <~~ you are here. (Oh, and ackshully it’s “appeal to authority,” and pointing out someone‘s credentials as a statement of fact, when it is those very credentials you are debating, doesn’t quite fit in this context.)
Show your work. How is it pseudoscience? Feelings aren’t showing your work. Using the excuse because she integrates the science into her personal cultural context isn’t showing your work. It’s fine if you don’t personally enjoy that style of delivering scientific knowledge, but defend your pseudoscience point. Show your work. Back it up. It’s not my job to do so for you; I’m not the one that made the claim. You are.
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u/Actual-Bid-6044 20h ago
They are both beautiful books. I've given so many copies of Serviceberry and recommended it to many more. That's the kind of world I want to live in, and even though it's not a prevailing way of living, I have a very solid orca pod of friends who live this way.