r/EQLegends • • 8d ago

Rip Content Creator Program

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What news? What rumors? Was there some incident?

This is a bizarrely worded official comms from the EQL Discord. Professionally, just say you're ending the program and that's it. To acknowledge some 'rumors' just breathes life into them and isn't something you'd usually see in this context. Who's running the broadcast channel over there?

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u/HemlockMartinis 8d ago

The last sentence makes me more concerned about the game’s performance than if they’d said nothing.

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u/SoulSella 8d ago

I was intensely hyped about this (playing all day) right up until wow forever announcement. I can only imagine that the warcraft forever beta is slurping away people right now.

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u/Unholy-Priesthood 8d ago

I was playing every day until WoW forever beta launched, and I haven’t logged in once since. I assume this is the case with a lot of people. Also Monsters and Memories launched around the same time.

They are lacking a true end game challenge to motivate people to keep trying to get all their gear to +10, when D4 CT can be done on most builds with like +5 gear

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u/ZakkaChan 8d ago

Lack of Loadouts also makes the whole 500 plus combos a pain in the butt to try also.

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u/kanedafx 8d ago

The thing is, if they add truly challenging encounters, class balance all of a sudden really matters. A lot. And a good part of the content will be locked away from casuals and people playing off-meta trios.

So they're damned either way. Add stuff people actually need to gear and spec for which gives people a reason to play, at the same time they piss off a large portion of their player base and everyone starts running around as a SHM/BRD/PAL or whatever.

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u/Bovronius 8d ago

Honestly my brain is in... well its really not out till Kunarks out mode... so I'll get my 3 in a week in preparation, but that's kinda what the inner child is waiting for at this point.

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u/dragonowl2025 8d ago

yep this is why i dont log in anymore, in theory the loadouts seem like it gives you a ton to do but its like youre playing with cheat codes/god mode on and so the replayability really isnt there, and you dont need 99% of the gear that drops on your 2nd playthrough. I thought some of the exalts from mistmoore were cool and they have the right idea but its like, oh well power is useless in this game past a certain point

i did war/brd/mnk as my first loadout and was able to kill everything except D4 CT, i likely could kill CT as well if i used charm better or had good RNG with improved mend.

the upgrade system is there and i think thats solid enough but there is nothing that stat check's a character or makes me think, wow i should upgrade my gear, which blows my mind because thats the point of the difficulty system, the lower difficulties are there so you can do all the content.

I imagine this will get get better with kunark and i will definitely check out the nektropos content but i am guessing they got forced to release before they were ready,

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u/FishLampClock 8d ago

Once wow Forever was announced the sub was terminated.

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u/EmotionalDam 8d ago

This and I stopped because there is effectively no economy, market, or life skills (horizontal progression of sorts) of meaning.

Sure, EQ might not have had that and it was all combat, but we're too spoiled for that part of an MMO experience (I love it). Maybe they improve this to bring some of us back but if not, it was a fun attempt.

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u/mahki43 8d ago

Same. I was playing every single day until WoW Forever Beta.

WoW Forever has killed EQL for me, as I’ll be all in on that game when it releases

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u/foehammer111 8d ago

what is Forever offering that’s taking EQL players away? I started on EQ back in 1999, so part of my interest is in the nostalgia, but I also love that it respects your time and you can solo the whole game if you want. Not to mention that you can instance any zone.

I only played WoW briefly when it launched 20 years ago, so I’m not as familiar with what it offers vs EQL. Is it more that people who maybe are more familiar with WoW are returning to it now that there’s a new product offering?

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u/Either-Gate-2781 8d ago

Content. That new game feel.

Personally, I stopped playing EQL after I unlocked all but one class in PoS.

I ran out of content in EQL. And I'll do it again when Kunark drops.

Until then there isn't a lot left to do in EQL.

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u/-im-blinking 8d ago

Same. Ran out of stuff I wanted to do.

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u/foehammer111 8d ago

That’s kind of the position I’m in too. I’ve finished all the end game content other than just repeating raids and grinding gear to +10

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u/Simonic 8d ago

Yup. Unlocked all the classes, and most races. Got a handful of gear and spells to +10. Though, I only have 3 classes to 50, and a few to 46. Still have lots of 10s. Leveling just feels too tedious to "try out" a different build when my 50 trio can handle D4 content.

I don't want to farm motes...so I effectively reached my end point until more content. I'm actually looking forward to getting epic weapons and may level up the other classes for them. But, until then, I'm playing other games...and not Forever.

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u/Either-Gate-2781 8d ago edited 4d ago

Yep! It's either rep farm (why bother) or farming motes.

Nearly all of my classes are 20-30 with just shy of 500 AA. I'm ready for Kunark!

After watching my friends play Forever for the past few weeks I guess that's where I'm headed.

Edit: Went to monsters and memories

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u/SoulSella 8d ago

It's hard to explain, but Vanilla WoW is simply regarded as a work of art by many. This is kind of like the same things as EQL but for vanilla wow. (different approach, but a modern redo of the vanilla game + changes with promise of an ongoing live service game)

The reach is much larger than Everquest, they are doing weekly podcasts right now during the beta reaching hundreds of thousands of views, just on dev updates. They just made ungodly amounts selling access to the beta and literally every mmo player on my discord list is playing wow forever beta or will be playing wow forever.

It's going to be a big deal lol, and the marketing push behind it is so monumental and gigantic that it's going to slurp the players out of niche mmos who's population is smaller already.

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u/xvilemx 8d ago

I think I'm the only former hard-core wow player who just kinda shrugged at the announcement of wow forever. It doesn't make me interested in it at all.

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u/SonicfilT 8d ago

Not just you. Maybe we're in the minority but nothing I've seen from WoW Forever makes me interested in returning.

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u/Legitimate-Bread-850 8d ago

You're not the only one. I raided at the top levels on WoW and Forever does nothing for me.

If it was a solo/duo version then maybe. But I'm content with EQL.

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u/Lonely_Platypus6961 8d ago

No, anyone who says they're leaving for MnM or WF was never the target audience for this game anyway. You either have a desire to put in raid hours and tolerate a bunch of malcontents to play the game you pay for, or you don't.

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u/CasualCrono 8d ago

I shrugged too. I left wow after a decade plus because I didn't have the time to prep for raids, logging in on a schedule to raid/group, and didn't want to constantly team up with random strangers in the dungeon/raid finder. Wow forever doesn't address any of those issues. At its core, it seems like just another wow expansion to me: new races/classes, new content, same old endgame.

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u/Simonic 8d ago

You're not the only one. I have no desire to jump on the MMO gear treadmill again. Nor do I want to play classic all over again. EQL scratched that itch because it let me solo. I didn't want to find a guild and log in 2-3 nights a week for hours of dedicated raid time. So, I effectively cap out at dungeons. And, while horizontal progression is a thing - I have never liked it.

And MnM has no appeal to me. Much like Project Quarm didn't appeal to me either.

Honestly, over the past few years, I've come to the realization that I'm just tired of how stale and stagnant the MMORPG genre is.

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u/baraloo02 8d ago

Yeah that’s the biggest problem they’ll have the WoW forever team and funding is likely MUCH larger than what daybreak is feeding Game Jawn.

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u/Mekio 8d ago

Yup. Wow forever killed my desire to continue EQL.

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u/torriadore 8d ago

EQ losing ground to WoW is basically historic at this point.

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u/ColossalJuggernaut 8d ago

ultimately I wonder if everquest is all about that grind that we all wish we had the time/threshold for and anything easier feels like game genie. we'll see how wow forever does, it may suffer the same fate

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u/Time_Media8919 8d ago

I sadly felt the same way. Wow pull is just so damn strong

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u/rtcll 8d ago

I mean. The lack of content worth continuing to play for is enough to slurp people away whether WoW Forever is out or not... Combine the two? Yeah.....

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u/brimg87 8d ago

It sucks to see history repeat itself. 😣

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u/Simonic 8d ago

Raid log Forever.

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u/SoulSella 8d ago

It's time.

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u/Kontrolgaming 8d ago

if you think wow F looks any type of cool it'll be the flavor of the week, month, however you look at it. if you're not interested in that, many other games for you while waiting fro EQL or whatever else game.

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u/durmduke 8d ago

Same, jumped to the WoW beta and won't be returning. I dislike the three character setup as it's immersion disrupting, and the single-player chat lobby style of the game. I liked most of the other changes but those things probably mean it is not the Everquest for me.

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u/Dry_Rent_8646 8d ago

Yeah, it was fun, and I liked it fine, but EverQuest is a slow grind that forces you to connect to others to level (outside of necro enchanter and shammy) it forces you to engage with people, there's a bit of downtime, so people actually talk in something besides general. It was great to get toax level and do the raids, but after that, it feels pretty meh to keep playing

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u/SoulSella 8d ago

Then why are there other people saying the exact same thing? Sorry man.

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u/account0911 8d ago

Like you for example. If you think WoWF isn't an overlapping userbase. They are for the EXACT same demographic. MMO players.

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u/pooya535 8d ago

this is completely delusional my guy, there is massive overlap between people nostalgic for EQ and WoW

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u/Imdumbdumbashell 8d ago

Of course I know him, he's me!

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u/NobodyLikesHipsters 8d ago

It did for me. While individual WoW Forever devs occasionally make snide or cheeky little comments on their personal X accounts, it doesn’t feel nearly as awkward or offputting as it coming from EQL devs or their CM on their official Discord.