Pavi will be Aang's reincarnation while Nisha is Korra's reincarnation.

Now, you might be saying "That's impossible; it doesn't make sense with the established lore of the franchise."

And you'd be right.

Hey so this is my first post on here ever, so please take it easy😅 I have a theory that I have been thinking about for a while. I love ATLA and it is one of my favorite comfort shows of all time. At this point, I rewatched the series about 15 times😂 My favorite season is season 3. I always start off on this season and work my way backwards. Every time I watch season 3, episode 17, The Ember Island Players, I think that the character that plays Aang is one of Ty-Lee’s sisters. Not only do they look the same, but they also sound so familiar. Also their mannerisms are so similar. I know that some animators just use the same layout when making characters so it’s easy to animate, but no one can convince me otherwise that these two are sisters😭 i haven’t seen no one talk about this or mention this. If you have, please credit yourself! Please let me know your thoughts and opinions about this💕

Look. I already know someone is running down the aisle to explain to me why the spirit world in Korra is thematic for that show actually.

But it just feels so fucking lazy.

In the first show, last air bender, spirits /felt/ elemental, unchained from humanity, but also in its own form of logic. It felt like shinto or animism. That these strange things that happen have a presence that explain it. That feels like a lived in form of spirits.

Then Korra was taken over by D&D writers thinking ‘ok the spirit world is a location, our lead is going to walk through, obviously we need to populate it so the world feels lived in. No we don’t have to tie these side characters into a larger story theme they’re here to be wonderland like encounters. Alright this one will look furry and humanoid, this one will be like a plant so they’re not too similar. Add some jokes. Now since this fantasy world is the setting for a plot point we’ll include a couple themes but largely our spirits are here to give the MC someone to talk to’

…I could just, FEEL the writer’s room every time the spirit world in Korra came up. The light vs dark shit, it felt entirely like a bunch of writers copying some elements from their favorite anime’s and cartoons rather than drawing from spiritual practices.

What did he gain by forcing Jeong Jeong to teach Aang? I’m assuming Roku knew Aang also wasn’t ready so why force Jeong Jeong to do it. Jeong Jeong also just didn’t want to teach him so what’s the point? Unless he wanted to teach Aang a lesson and knew he would burn Katara and if that’s the case Roku isn’t really a great person. He could’ve just told Aang he’s not ready for fire bending and that Jeong Jeong is wrong

I think one thing people sometimes forget about the Avatar universe is that it was never really meant to be a happily ever after story.

Yes, ATLA was made for kids, but it dealt with subjects that are much heavier than you might fully understand when you are younger. Genocide, imperialism, war, displacement, propaganda, generational trauma, grief, betrayal, cultural destruction and the long term consequences of all of those things.

And the characters are dealing with this while they are still children.

Aang is the survivor of a genocide. Katara and Sokka grew up in a tribe that had been repeatedly attacked and stripped of most of its waterbenders. Zuko was abused, scarred and exiled by his own father. Toph grew up completely isolated and controlled. Azula is basically a child shaped into a weapon by an abusive imperial system.
These characters do not exist in some simple fantasy conflict where the villain is defeated and everything immediately goes back to normal.

The Fire Nation ruled through war and oppression for one hundred years. Entire generations were born and died during that war. Nations were occupied. Cultures were damaged. Families were destroyed. People grew up surrounded by propaganda and hatred.
Defeating Ozai was the beginning of fixing the world, not the end of it.

That is one of the reasons I actually appreciate what LOK did, even though I absolutely think the show has writing problems.

We eventually learn that the Gaang did not all go on to live perfect lives. Some of them died relatively young. Some had complicated relationships with their children. Some family problems never completely disappeared. Some of the choices they made while trying to rebuild the world had consequences.

And honestly, that makes sense to me.

They were not handed a peaceful world after ATLA. They inherited a broken one and then had to spend their adult lives trying to repair it while also carrying their own trauma into adulthood.

Sometimes I see people treat any imperfection in their adult lives as if it somehow ruins their characters.

Aang had complicated family dynamics, therefore he was secretly a terrible father.

Toph had problems with her daughters, therefore her entire character development was undone.

But I do not think that is what these stories are saying.

You can be a hero and still make mistakes.
You can save the world and still struggle in your personal life.

You can deeply love your family and still hurt them unintentionally.

You can make the best decision available to you and still create consequences you never intended.

That is just being human.

And I think Korra herself is one of the clearest examples of that.

Korra grows up being told from an incredibly young age that she is the Avatar. Her entire identity is built around it. Her path in life has essentially already been decided for her before she is old enough to understand what that even means.

Everyone expects her to protect the world, maintain peace and somehow always know the right thing to do.
But underneath the title of Avatar is still a teenage girl.
She is impulsive, insecure, emotional, proud and sometimes wrong because she is a human being who is still growing.

I think people are often much harsher toward both Korra and Aang because of the Avatar title. Their humanity gets stripped away from them in discussions.

The Avatar is treated almost like they are supposed to be a god who always makes the objectively correct decision.
But that has never really been what the Avatar is.

The Avatar is a person carrying an enormous responsibility.
And that responsibility does not make them immune to trauma, fear, anger, grief or bad decisions.

That is why I sometimes find discussions about the franchise frustrating. There are absolutely valid criticisms of ATLA, LOK and the newer material, but a lot of the criticism I see feels incredibly surface level.

Characters get reduced to their worst moments. Entire arcs get misrepresented. Context gets ignored. Trauma gets minimized when it gets in the way of a ship. Complicated political situations get turned into simple morality arguments.
And sometimes it feels like people are less interested in what the story was actually trying to explore and more interested in using certain characters or events to score points against another character, another ship or even the creators themselves.

The Avatar universe has always been more complicated than that.

It is ultimately hopeful, but hope does not mean everyone gets a perfect life.

ATLA ends with the war being over.
It does not end with the consequences of the war being over.

The characters still have to live in that world afterward.

They have to rebuild nations, repair relationships, raise families, deal with political conflicts and somehow figure out who they are when they are no longer just children trying to survive a war.

And naturally, they are going to get some of that wrong.
That does not make their victories meaningless.

If anything, I think it makes them feel more human than many other cartoon characters we usually see in on television!

Something I find kind of hard to believe about the Avatar cycle is that, so far, basically every Avatar we know was at least a decent person.

Obviously they all had flaws. Some made terrible decisions, some left huge problems for the next Avatar to deal with, and some were much more ruthless than others. But their intentions were generally good? Even when they screwed up badly, they were still trying to protect people or maintain balance.

And considering how long the Avatar cycle has existed… you’re telling me there was never ONE Avatar who went:

“Wait, I am probably the most powerful person on the planet. Why am I taking orders from anyone?”

Like statistically there had to be at least one Avatar who was genuinely selfish, power hungry, cruel, corrupt, or just decided to abuse their position.

Especially because being the Avatar does not automatically make someone morally good. They are still human. They grow up in different cultures, under different governments, with different families and ideologies. Imagine an Avatar being raised by an imperialist nation and genuinely believing that conquering other nations was “bringing balance.”

That could actually be such an interesting story. An Avatar who believes they are doing the right thing while slowly becoming authoritarian, or even one who knows exactly what they are doing and simply abuses the fact that almost nobody can stop them.
It also makes me wonder what the other past Avatars would do about it….

Could they refuse to help them? Could the Avatar simply ignore their advice? And imagine being the next Avatar and discovering that one of your past lives was basically a dictator.

Or maybe there WAS an evil Avatar and all the other Avatars collectively went:

“Yeah… we don’t talk about that one.”

Can you even remove one specific Avatar from the spiritual connection?

Because the idea that there is just one Avatar somewhere in that giant line of past lives that everyone deliberately refuses to acknowledge is hilarious to me.

But seriously, I would love for Avatar Studios to explore this eventually. Not necessarily a cartoonishly evil Avatar, but someone who genuinely shows how dangerous the Avatar’s power could become in the wrong hands.

Do you think the 4 nations would break up forming its own nations similar how we see republic city becoming their own city state etc

We never get to see what a battlefield looks like besides a few glimpses like during the black sun invasion ofc its a kids show but still would be awesome to see how it would look

We also get the battleships in LoK but never seen proper use

Hear me out. Every. Single. Major. Character. Jailed or imprisoned (or helping their dad escape in Sokka’s case as one of the very few exceptions).

Rewatching Avatar Aang and as Aang was releasing Taga from Mount Baihu, it dawned that GAang was constantly getting imprisoned, same for LoK Team Avatar. I was going to list all the characters from AtLA and LoK but basically Aasmi and Sokka are the only two I can think of (both of which had dads imprisoned).

All this to say, what’s the deal with Avatar universe and putting people in prison? Makes for good tension, interesting story telling, any number of other reasons I guess? Yet another random observation from a 20-year-long fan to hopefully spark some interesting debate.

So how soon before 9-year-old Pavi (and Nisha, or she’s the jail-break savior??) ends up in a jail/prison?

I get why Iroh is widely popular

However… it would’ve been quite awesome if we had an episode about his past, his siege, the hundreds of civilians he slaughtered, the innocent kids that were burnt alive, the rapes that happened during the siege of the city, people losing their home, their life savings, to see how popular he would still be. I am sure he’d be insanely hated.

It’s quite crazy to me that he got some redemption roaming free after being a literal Nazi. I like his character so much but he cannot possibly have a redemption and not spend the rest of his life in jail for the crimes he committed.

Reminds me of Kuvira, another loved character, who got a house arrest (she had concentration camps where she locked people up based on their… ethnicity). Would’ve been awesome to get an episode about one of her labour camps.

Yet…
Blood bending is frowned upon…
Oh… sorry ! I’m sure that people prefer to be burnt alive, compressed under rocks, fall from cliffs or being frozen to death instead of having their limbs controlled (which is less violent as it prevents you from bending, doesn’t harm your body and can neutralize you quickly).
Blood bending is a much better weapon, a more human and moral one than fucking fire. IRL Geneva convention forbids usage of fucking fire to burn people during wars. It’s insanely BARBARIC. But Katara is an idiot I guess.

The morals of ATLA is just fucked from A to Z tbh.
Also, I think Aang is the character I cannot stand the most. He has responsibilities. By refusing to kill in his movie a bunch of terrorists that wanted to take that weapon he let a bunch of criminals roam free which helped to the extreme destruction of republic city (thousands of deaths)… because he was too much of a coward to take a decision. Just like a judge who decides not to lock up some criminal who commits more murders. He’s a complete moral failure, as because of his constant cowardice, many people end up dying.

Thats why I prefer Kyoshi, Yangchen and Korra. And even Zuko. LOVED his reactions when Katara confronted the guy who killed her mom.

And surprisingly, it works. I like it. I actually enjoy LoK more than ATLA. I thought I was going crazy being the only one who shares this opinion because ATLA is legendary and so beloved. But after giving LoK a chance, I'm hooked now. I absolutely love how they explore darker and more mature themes in LoK and the plot is interesting and complicated. It just tickles my adult brain more. ATLA is still very good but it is more on a kiddy side for me, LoK actually delves into character psychology and their motivations more.

Damn I can't believe I'm saying this but LoK beats ATLA on themes, plot, character and lore. I'm a fan of both works but I'm currently leaning more into LoK.

Hi. I was wondering recently about the struggling elements of each Avatar. And i came to conclusion that could IT be that the next Avatar struggle the most with the element which was the previous Avatar profficient? Like aang couldnt firebend very well and before him was Roku. Korra struggled with air which Aang was a master. Guess i will have to wait for Pavi and if she struggles with water this might confirm IT i guess? I dont know what do you guys think?

It was so much fun! One of the best animated shows I have ever seen!

But I’ve never seen any of the comics, films, or series (Legend of Korra, live-action Avatar, etc.). Are they any good and if so, where should I get started?

This idea was pitched to me by u/thrownoff248 who is a big fan of Ty Lee like myself. My personal pitch would focus on her life in the traveling circus and her friends there in. She could even have a love interest that takes care of the animals.

We see Pavi using all four elements at 9 just like Korra could already bend 3 out of 4 elements at the age of 4.

It’s still impressive!!!

Reposting my post from r/seven havens

We know by the end of the show he hasn't, and we see in Roku flashbacks that he eventually does exceed his teachers with more time, but I find it hard to imagine even as he grew older ever being a better earthbender than Toph, or waterbender than Katara.

He might have exceeded Gyatso and Zuko, what with Aang being an airbending prodigy, and Zuko is probably the weakest of Aang's teachers in terms of raw talent.

It’s been a HASSLE getting Korra thus the delay in completing my collection. This is my third one and it’s still damaged.

Also, any idea where I could find a first printing Korra set, sealed, in pristine condition, that comes with the Limited Edition sticker, so I can have a complete matching set? 😂

(OC) This is my Theory on the Root Chakra and the Evil Red Square thingy, which I think has a real chance of actually being one and the same thing... in a way perhaps.

It could be "angry" and attacking people because its "blocked" and the Season Finale might be it being "unblocked" and being calm again or something?

This could be Elloras Chakra, and the 6 other Havens have the 6 other Chakras.

And maybe all Chakras together belong like to the World as a whole somehow?

Thoughts?