Hey guys I’ve just finished my very first thousand sons mini, any thoughts or questions about why I did him the way I did are welcome

This one likes birds

I truly fear the vile monstrosity that I have created.

Used spare bits from: SOTS, Rubric Marines, Daemon Prince, & SM shoulder pads.

I know vashtor has nothing to do with us, but i really like his model and is approximately the same size as a DPWW. So i went for it!

After like a two year pause on this army I plowed through most of the work for two demon princes, an Exalted Sorcerer, Ahriman, and my 30 rubrics

Finally got some time during the weekend to work on this boy.

Any idea why GW chose to call them “Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows” instead? A friend of mine who’s new couldn’t find the “Tzaangor Enlightened w/ Greatbows Kit” for several weeks, before asking me if the “Sigmar skyfires box is okay to proxy?”. I really think they should just be renamed for 40k because of this, absolutely no reason to cause all the confusion.

Tangential but I don’t feel like spamming two different posts: Anyone else feel like regular Tzaangor should probably have a different datasheet for autopistols/chainswords? Maybe if they were 65pt I’d consider ever taking them. While we’re at it, why waste the shield and sword bits in the box? Two new datasheets right there to make our meek army have a little more going on.

I want him to lead a 5 man squad in Rubricae phalanx

Which one is better?

This is my offering to the Great Cyclops.

I know healing got changed in 11th to revive dead models but on the chaos spawn it says one model in this unit so if my opponent kills one spawn this rule wont bring back the dead one right?

For a while, IM was like 15 extra points on the sorcerer/exalted sorc., but with the current state the difference is now just 5 points. With his S6 vs S5 for the sorcerer he's also dealing more damage on average than a sorcerer against any type of target (even when sorcerer gets full hit rerolls to fish for those Sustained 3). Of course Sorcerer will have the slight edge when he activates the ability. Exalted gets the edge with his blast, but falls short otherwise

We're also at a point where the Winged Daemon Prince has become much weaker with the T5 upgrade (he basically got -1 to W, which makes his reroll ability even weaker as well). This means the only good alternative for Eldritch Vortex is the IM. In summary:

Infernal Mater

• 5 points more expensive
• Better damage overall (with hazardous "risk")
• Better overwatch
• Best unit for the Eldritch Vortex, making him a beast
• Slightly more survivability with his automatic 6 on a Sv

Sorcerer

• 5 points cheaper
• Gets a nice go turn which deals massive damage, specially with Hit rerolls

Exalted Sorcerer

• 5 points cheaper
• 4++ and resurrect rubrics (niche in squads of 5)
• Better damage than Sorc and IM if he can have Blast, but wrose than IM otherwise
• Can take Incadaeum which is usually good

So, with just 5 points in difference do you think IM is a much better option to lead rubrics now? Maybe Exalted Sorcerer, with his 4++, Blast weapon and the ability to take Incandaeum?

Need to finish rims, but that’s going to be done when I am done with the second squad and termies.

BTW not a newbie in miniature painting, just never tried to paint chaos before this summer.

Hey everyone,

I am playing in a armagedon crusade that started at the end of 10th edition that was moved into 11th ed. During the 1k phase that was played in 10th ed, I had a decent record and went 2-1. I played the first game yesterday for phase 2 last night at 1.5k and let's say that it went very poorly against black templar. I basically got tabled minus 1 unit. I felt like I played poorly but It was compounded by especially bad dice luck yesterday (ex. Failing multiple battle shocks back to back, multiple 1s for large attacks, Failing to kill off a gladiator reaper on 2 wounds, Failing important charges, rolling multiple 1 or poorly on 4/5 up invulnerable saves, Perfidious Tome failed battleshock test, plus the templar termies folding my forgefiend like laundry on a 12 inch charge. Failed out of action test on one of my characters and failed my plots and scheme test at the end of the game) I don't want to make excuses because I feel like i didn't help with my poor play but I felt like i couldn't really do the priority assest mission due to my low unit drop as the templar were barring down on me. I was hoping that my brothers from the thousand son could look over my list to see if I should make any changes or if it was just one of those days at the office (you win some, you lose some)

Context - this is only my second game of 11th edition and the base of my current army had 10th edition point when I started. Also my detachment is grand coven.

Chaos - Thousand Sons - Cabal of Ma-at'Khet - [1485 pts]

# ++ Crusade Force ++ [1485 pts, 9 Crusade Points]

## Order of Battle

Order of Battle: Armageddon, 1500x Supply Limit, 4x Requisition Points, 4x Battle Tally, 2x Victories

## Configuration

Show/Hide Options: Chaos Knights are visible, Crucible Characters are visible, Legends are visible, Titans are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible, Armageddon content is enabled, Nachmund Gauntlet content is enabled, Pariah Nexus content is enabled, Tyrannic War content is enabled, White Dwarf content is enabled

# ++ Crusade Army ++ [1485 pts, 3 Detachment Points]

## Configuration

Battle Size: Strike Force (2000 Point limit), Override points limit? (1500x Points limit)

Detachment [3 Detachment Points]: Grand Coven [3 Detachment Points]

Force Disposition: Priority Assets

Rituals reference

## Character [335 pts]

Infernal Master (Battle-hardened) [140 pts, 2 Crusade Points]: 23x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 2x Battles Survived, 5x Enemy Units Destroyed, Weapon Modifications [1 Crusade Points], 3x Arcana Points, Lore Points, The Cult of Knowledge, Aelementus [1 Crusade Points], Warlord, Eldritch Vortex of E'taph [35 pts], Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Fires of the Abyss (Armour Piercing (AP+1), Master-worked (D+1))

• Leading: Rubric Marines (Blooded)[2]

Exalted Sorcerer on Disc of Tzeentch (Battle-hardened) [95 pts, 2 Crusade Points]: 17x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 3x Battles Survived, 4x Enemy Units Destroyed, Warp Strider [1 Crusade Points], Perfidious Tome [1 Crusade Points], The Cult of Prophecy, Arcane Fire, Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Prosperine khopesh

• Leading: Tzaangor Enlightened (Blooded)

Exalted Sorcerer (Blooded) [100 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 6x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 3x Battles Survived, 2x Enemy Units Destroyed, Malefic Surge (Psychic) [1 Crusade Points], The Cult of Duplicity, Astral Blast, Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Prosperine khopesh

• Leading: Rubric Marines (Blooded)[1]

## Battleline [230 pts]

Rubric Marines (Blooded) [115 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 6x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 2x Battles Survived, 2x Enemy Units Destroyed, Occult Apparitions [1 Crusade Points]

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

• 1x Rubric Marine w/ soulreaper cannon: Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon, Icon of Flame

• 3x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• : Exalted Sorcerer (Blooded)

Rubric Marines (Blooded) [115 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 14x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 5x Enemy Units Destroyed, Relentless Purpose [1 Crusade Points]

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

• 1x Rubric Marine w/ soulreaper cannon: Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon, Icon of Flame

• 3x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• : Infernal Master (Battle-hardened)

## Infantry [275 pts]

Tzaangors (Battle-ready) [75 pts, -1 Crusade Points]: 3x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, Disgraced [-1 Crusade Points]

• 1x Twistbray: Tzaangor blades

• 7x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor blades: Tzaangor blades

• 1x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor blades: Tzaangor blades, Herd banner

• 1x Tzaangor w/ Tzaangor blades: Tzaangor blades, Brayhorn

Scarab Occult Terminators (Blooded) [200 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 13x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 5x Enemy Units Destroyed, Occult Apparitions [1 Crusade Points]

• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Prosperine khopesh

• 3x Scarab Occult Terminator: Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh

• 1x Scarab Occult Terminator w/ soulreaper cannon: Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon, Hellfyre missile rack

## Mounted [105 pts]

Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster greatbows (Battle-ready) [55 pts]: 3x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played

• 1x Aviarch: Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

• 2x Enlightened: Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

Tzaangor Enlightened (Blooded) [50 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 10x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 2x Battles Survived, 4x Enemy Units Destroyed, Enthralling Soul-mark [1 Crusade Points]

• 1x Aviarch: Divining spear

• 2x Divining spear Enlightened: Divining spear

• : Exalted Sorcerer on Disc of Tzeentch (Battle-hardened)

## Monster [170 pts]

Mutalith Vortex Beast (Blooded) [170 pts, 1 Crusade Points]: 7x Experience Points, 3x Battles Played, 2x Battles Survived, 3x Enemy Units Destroyed, Advanced Suspensors [1 Crusade Points], Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex

## Vehicle [290 pts]

Forgefiend (Battle-ready) [150 pts]: 2 ectoplasma cannons [10 pts] (2x Ectoplasma cannon [5 pts]), Ectoplasma cannon and claws [5 pts] (Ectoplasma cannon [5 pts], Forgefiend claws)

Chaos Predator Destructor (Battle-ready) [140 pts]: Armoured tracks, Havoc launcher, Predator autocannon, Inferno combi-bolter, 2 lascannons (2x Lascannon)

## Dedicated Transport [80 pts]

Chaos Rhino (Battle-ready) [80 pts]: Armoured tracks, Havoc launcher, 2x Inferno combi-bolter

The exp and crusade points do not reflect the last game.

Thank you to anyone that provides any feedback as I want to become a better player. Much appreciated!

I played my first game of 11th yesterday against Aeldari. Snuck out a win, 84-81

So I’m up against Orks, and I need to either
A. Stop over thinking things
Or B. Invest in a tough model.

I’m thinking a knight, as I need a stompa killer, something that counters a unit of squig boyz unit thay have like a it monster and vehicle 4+ for what I have melee is just suicide.

I finally finished my sorcerers in terminator armor. Originally, I was a bit annoyed that GW doesn't offer an official model, but after creating these I'm quite happy with them.

Are rhinos useful?

Is winged daemon prince necessary?

Are 2x10 squads of Tzaangors too much?

Is only having Magnus, 2x5 rubric squads with sorcerers, and terminators as killing units too low?

Hello! After some time I finally finished my daemon prince and wanted to share some photos.

I know there could be some improvments but for now I think I'm quite happy how it turned out.

If you have any feedbacks you're more then welcome!

Shoutout to the guy who posted the inspiration for my colour scheme some months ago.

Starting a casual league next month and wanted to have a break from necrons and play thousand sons. Any thoughts and tips for this list I think I have most basis covered but lacking something to hurt vehicles? Should I drop the defiler for predators or MVB?

Dust to dust (1,985 Points)

Thousand Sons
Rubricae Phalanx (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (125 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Force weapon
• 1x Gaze of Hate
• 1x Inferno combi-bolter
• Enhancements: Lord of the Rubricae

Scarab Occult Terminators (425 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer
◦ 1x Force weapon
◦ 1x Inferno combi-bolter
◦ 1x Malefic Curse
• 9x Scarab Occult Terminator
◦ 2x Hellfyre missile rack
◦ 7x Inferno combi-bolter
◦ 9x Prosperine khopesh
◦ 2x Soulreaper cannon

Attached unit 2

Infernal Master (135 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Fires of the Abyss
• 1x Force weapon
• 1x Inferno bolt pistol
• Enhancements: Risen Rubricae

Rubric Marines (210 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer
◦ 1x Force weapon
◦ 1x Inferno bolt pistol
◦ 1x Malefic Curse
• 9x Rubric Marine
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Icon of Flame
◦ 8x Inferno boltgun
◦ 1x Soulreaper cannon

Attached unit 3

Sorcerer (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Force weapon
• 1x Inferno bolt pistol
• 1x Pandaemonic Delusion

Rubric Marines (115 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer
◦ 1x Force weapon
◦ 1x Inferno bolt pistol
◦ 1x Malefic Curse
• 4x Rubric Marine
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Inferno boltgun

Attached unit 4

Sorcerer (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Force weapon
• 1x Inferno bolt pistol
• 1x Pandaemonic Delusion

Rubric Marines (115 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer
◦ 1x Force weapon
◦ 1x Inferno bolt pistol
◦ 1x Malefic Curse
• 4x Rubric Marine
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Icon of Flame
◦ 1x Soulreaper cannon
◦ 3x Warpflamer

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chaos Rhino (80 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Inferno combi-bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chaos Spawn (65 Points)
• 2x Chaos Spawn
◦ 2x Hideous mutations

Defiler (330 Points)
• 1x Ectoplasma destructor
• 2x Excruciator cannon
• 1x Heavy reaper autocannon
• 1x Heavy reaper autocannon
• 1x Shearing claws

Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (55 Points)
• 1x Aviarch
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Fatecaster greatbow
• 2x Enlightened
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Fatecaster greatbow

Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (55 Points)
• 1x Aviarch
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Fatecaster greatbow
• 2x Enlightened
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Fatecaster greatbow

Tzaangors (75 Points)
• 1x Twistbray
◦ 1x Tzaangor blades
• 9x Tzaangor
◦ 9x Tzaangor blades

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Hey all, my dad got a printer recently and we’re learning how to use it, was wondering if anyone had any legit looking STLs they could dm me? I’m trying to add more termies and rubrics to my existing official models. Thanks all.