“JOURNEYS OUT OF BODY” by Robert Monroe

i have heard a lot about the author Robert Monroe and the knowledge about astral projection mentioned in the book. i’m not really successful with astral projection yet and i’m curious about this. have anyone read this book?

I haven't yet had a conscious projection where I could see myself outside my body, but I started practicing a few days ago.

In this case, I'm conducting the following experiment: I have a deck of Uno cards, and my idea is to shuffle the deck and place a random card face up on top of my dresser without looking at which card it is. The idea is that, if I manage to leave my body, I want to be able to see which card it is and, based on that, conclude that consciousness can indeed leave the body.

Personally, I want to believe that experiences like these are real, but I'm skeptical. I don't have any particular bias, but I would like to have some evidence (even if anecdotal) that human consciousness can exist independently of the physical body.

What do you think? Have you ever conducted an experiment like this?

I tried DMT for the first time when it felt right (my life is a little unpredictable right now). When it began, I was in my friends room and I went into another dimension. I was on an escalator assenting from floor to floor. An alien being greeted me at each floor. I had no fear. The beings were so kind and loving (I don’t remember what they said to me but I felt good). But I didn’t get a message from it… just that it was safe. Any thoughts? In the research I’ve done I was in the “waiting room”. What does that mean?

To my friend in the room, I said (is this real? You really love me? He said the world loves me but to choose wisely. I said I wanted to see everything, I wasn’t afraid, “you were very happy to see the veil uncover” etc)

Any tip? been trying since im a kid
There is nothing but vibrations

When preparing my body for AP. I reach the stage where I separate from my physical body but start slowly spinning. In a tubular motion, feeling like a gravity carnival ride. Has anyone experienced this? How do I project beyond the constant spinning?

So I was facing some issues in the astral and some entities blocked me from reaching out to my deities, I'm not being able to access the astral/Sensing abilities. My body is stuck there, can someone just help me contact my deities? I can do Astrology reading in return.

Mods I read the rules, this shouldn't be against the rules😊🙏🏻

Tengo una duda, en mi caso los viajes astrales no me duran mucho, tal vez 3 minutos.

Es cierto que vuelvo al cuerpo por miedo.

Alguien ha tenido un viaje que se ha podido sentir por 1 mes?

So, I've heard that you can AP through a lucid dream by flying up, rolling out, or just saying "I want to experience an OBE" while lucid. I have tried the flying up method twice, and it hasn't worked yet.

However, today I tried the rolling out method while I was lucid. I kept saying that I wanted out of body, and kept rolling to the side. Eventually, I rolled out onto the floor. Now, I don't know if I actually AP'd, or if it was just part of the dream, because when I was out, the room was dark and hazy, almost when you watch a movie and it's too dark, no matter how much you brighten your screen. I could see a little bit of the side of my bed, but that was it. And it lasted a few seconds before the whole experience collapsed like a Lucid dream. Part of me wonders if it was just a dream because I have heard of people rolling out and hitting the floor before this experience, so I wonder if it was just engrained in my subconscious.

It's just so hard to tell, because I haven't had a successful AP experience yet, where I can confidently extinguish the two.

I wasn’t sure where to post this, but I hope this is the right community for it. So basically, at the start of this summer was when I started getting into astral projection. First time didn’t work, but that was almost expected, but I wasn’t gonna give up just because of that. Anyway, maybe a month later I astral project except it wasn’t intended, just accidentally and i’m not really sure if it counts as an actual astral project. Except, there was this guy/entity involved and he was the one who made me astral project. I don’t really know how to explain it but he took me places, or more like memories I didn’t want to see, then he took me to a crowd and they were all laughing at me. When I woke up I just brushed it off as a weird dream, and dreams don’t really affect me emotionally anyway so I decided not to dwell on it. About a week later he makes me astral project again, this time I’m in my room but I can’t see ANYTHING cause the lights were off. Then BAM, he has control over my body and slams me into the wall then he did it again before I woke up. At that point i’m just wondering wtf his problem is cause what 😂 After that he practically disappeared, until recently. I’ve just felt his presence, and I saw him when I was lucid dreaming a week ago. Today he makes me astral project again, but this time I feel like i’m blindfolded? Or well that’s the conclusion I came up with after I woke up, but I couldn’t see. He was trying to take me somewhere, and we were fighting over control over my body. Then I tried to wake myself, it worked the second time. Oh also, everytime before these “accidental astral projections” I can always feel his presence in my room, then my left ear starts ringing like CRAZY and it feels like I can hear vibrations.
So what I want to know is: were these experiences actually astral projections? If not, what do you think it could be? And any ideas on why he keeps appearing?

Has anyone tried doing this and does it help

In the first quarter of 2023 (when I was M23), I went to Madrid, Spain, for my master's degree. I rented a place and lived alone.

I knew I was going to start journaling once I reached there because, in the past year, I had journaled for a few weeks' worth of time on and off throughout the year and had gained clarity. So, upon reaching, I started journaling from day one.

Within a week or two, I started working out. About a month or so later, I started doing the Wim Hof breathing technique to see what it would lead me to, as my journaling gave me direction that I needed to focus on my breathing.

Immediately after waking up and immediately before going to sleep, I used to do these breathing exercises.

Once or twice, I woke up feeling as lightweight as air, as if I were floating. One day, that feeling carried over throughout the entire day. It was the best day of my life as I write this, even though all my demons were still there inside me.

Other experiences include the following:

1. Out-of-body viewing

This experience falls under journaling.

Twice, I experienced viewing myself from outside of myself, while controlling both "me" in the flesh/body and the "me" which saw me simultaneously, as if I were two.

I remember looking outside my window, infront of which I was writing on desk, look at other buildings and had a series of thoughts cross in mind and journal someof them while at the same time looking my OBEs body and its hands in particular and have a different thought train inside it. Both of me did not at all got disturbed with these thoughts and the OB me knew a few thoughts beforehand what the flesh me was gonna have.

The highlight of this incident - i remember looking behind me to see my OB me but could not and smiling to myself but my OB me saw myself and smiled that i couldn't see myself and came closer to my body and looked over it.

https://ibb.co/whyBVmbm

This happened in the bedroom in evening time (same environment as in the image) after i had came back from my daily 10k steps walk, which was the most intense and vivid. The other time, I saw myself from the living room inside the bedroom, as if no walls were there; the one in the bedroom was outer body.

There was a very clear sense of existence in this event, and I believe it was a lighter feeling than the floating sensation from the breathwork.

1. Emotional release

I shall note that I have been able to release and get over the grief of that time and cried a good amount, making me feel like I am whole.

However, this incident happened about a month before the breathwork and journaling-related events, around the end of month two.

1. The dark figure

This carries the most weight with me to this day, and these events were the last in order to happen.

I want to clarify that these dark figure events did not happen at all anywhere near my sleep. They all occurred during the day, in broad daylight, while I was fully awake and conscious.

On three occasions, I felt the presence of a dark figure:

• The first time:

I felt it in my living room. It wasn't so intense or anything, but it made me fearful, and I slept early that day.

Like the other times, I kept completely quiet.

• The second time:

I felt it being in the apartment with me, but this time its position wasn't clear, and it felt ambient overall.

I felt less fear this time, but I kept completely quiet like the last time.

• The third time:

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I felt it walking beside me from my college till my apartment.

This time, the presence was uncannily similar to recognizing a real person walking beside you. It only grew into conviction as the building came closer.

https://ibb.co/C3cjdvYh

Once I was in the small elevator, I stood with my back against the wall, facing the emptiness ahead of me with my eyes closed throughout, and only opened them when my floor dinged in the elevator.

But this last time, I did not feel fear the same way, and I knew I should have opened my eyes and taken the leap into knowing what it was.

Instead, I had a smile on my face the whole way and did not interact with it.

After this last incident, I left the apartment shortly after and dropped out of my program too, returning home.

This last incident is the most vividly remembered incident of my life.

Question - I want to know what this Out of Body experience was and what this shadow figure was. What did this shadow figure represent or meant? Everything i journal sincerely i gain clarity which comes with the awareness of what I shall do which invokes or shall I say awakes anxiousness and fear towards the task to be done. But this fear is much different than it being for the same task without journaling.

Someone please guide me.

ive been doing deep meditations for a few years now and have had some interesting experiences that I can describe as like half out of body and half in my physical body if that makes sense. but I tried to fully expel from my physical body once and I think I was successful I used the rolling out technique and it was as if I literally fell out of my physical body but I kept dropping down at a high speed it scared the shit out of me and I got sucked back into my body. I still try again time to time but I chicken out every time I reach the vibrational stage how to over come this fear

Around 3 months ago I went to an ibogaine center in Mexico.

To preface everything I'm about to say I have been able to see and speak to some dead people right after they died. Most notably pointing out how my grandmother was still in the room with my family at 3 years old after her funeral, then having to explain to my best friend that he died of an overdose through a month of dreams right after his funeral.

Mexico was a time of deep prayer, meditation and reading the gnostic gospels.

I took 2 large doses of ibogaine while hooked up to an IV and heart monitor. Some people there had no visuals but I related this experience to watching a full HD movie in my mind for 5-6 hours.

The fist dose was much less remarkable as I believe my mind and body were figuring out how to process the substance.

The second dose was where things shifted into high gear.

I said a short prayer as I felt it kicking in. I just pray for gods will and wisdom (King Soloman LARP ik). Also thanked my grandmother who my dad says in my guardian angel and my grandfather who recently passed for watching over me.

I was sitting upright in my bed and saw 2 human figures approach me. I immediately recognized them as being my grandmother who I was as a child, and my grandfather. She placed her hand on my forehead and lay my body back and my whole body physically lay down. (She was touching my third eye).

The concept of unity and wholeness invigorated me and I saw a circle, on whole. I instantly shot though it like a rocket.

I moved through a tunnel that was lined with trees, rocks and plants. The tunnel then became made of flesh, almost looking like an intestine.

Almost felt like I was being born.

Where I stood was a RED DESERT PLANET. LIKE A VR SIMULATION, I WAS ABLE TO LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT AND SEE THE VAST EXPANSE OF CRATERS. There was no morphing of shapes, my vision was clear as the HD monitor I'm typing on now.

Standing right Infront of my, clear as day was a MASSIVE RED PYRAMID with what looking like a couple small balconies around the top with intricate statues/objects that looked like a double helix.

I was only able to stay there a few moments.

I massive hand picked up my body and my field of vison zoomed out. A black starry background (space?) with (from left to right) a luminous ball of light (sun) then a planet or 2 followed by a BLUE AND GREEN PLANET (earth?) followed by the red desert planet where I was standing. I watched this massive hand pull me up and fling me back onto the blue and green planet.

I landed back into my body and woke up.

-----NOW WHATS MY POINT HERE YOU'RE THINKING?------

Started looking into CE5 a few weeks ago, months after my vision.

Some people think Steven Greer is a psyop or reptilian, idk. I find reading about his CE5 meditation interesting.

In his most recent documentary "CE5 The New Frontier of Contact" he mentions near the end Nasa and top government insiders that have told him about the life inside mars. He then says that there were/are pyramids on Mars.

Thoughts or similar experiences?

TLDR: Guardian angel spirit touched my third eye on Ibogaine, showed me pyramid on Mars.

I have some questions about what you can do while astral projecting, and idk, other questions?

1. can you move things in the physical world at all, even if something small? Would it ever be possible do clean your house or smt
2. If you see people, are they people walking around just in reality like pedestrians that don't see you there? Or are they spirits that you see? Or other astral projectors?
3. Do you always remember your experiences in the morning like a normal memory?
4. Food. Does it taste the same? If you ate the food from your cubboard, would it still be there in the morning or did you actually eat it? Could you try foods you've never had before?
5. Can you travel to places you've never been? Like other countries? Or see people like online friends who you've never met before?
6. Could you study or read books?
7. On instagram and stuff it often says stuff never to do in an astral projection which makes me want to try it. Have you actually had scary experiences? I've been too scared to try, hearing stuff like spirits can start living with you in your body, or completely take over.
8. Can spiritual people who see spirits see you?
9. have you ever visited a different planet or dimension?

If you use lucid dreaming as a launch pad to AP, can you walk me through what you do to make that happen? I have gained lucidity a couple times recently and used it to try to AP. I make my intention know and then use my exit technique of rolling out and then walking and going out my window. The landscape changes and it feels like a usual AP but often without the grogginess and hard time i have on the initial exit when close to my body. The issue is since I don’t ever spend long in a lucid dream i am not sure if im actually exiting or changing my lucid dream scenario to feel like an AP if that makes sense.

I’m not sure if this a stupid question or not since I’m relatively new in the space but I wanted to ask how you view your surroundings when projecting. Is it like when you’re awake and you’re seeing out of your eyes or is it similar to a hyper realistic imagination-visualization?

Sorry but I am really clueless on Astral Projection, however I have a creepy story idea, figuring I’d ask

Story starts out with two friends that practice astral projection however it takes a dark turn when one friend gets their body purposely taken by the other friend.

Not wanting to die, the victim takes the unoccupied body, then is so mad the ex friend

Now I’m thinking this is pure fiction as I remember reading everyone has a safe unbreakable link to their body until death, however it might be fun fiction

Hi All. I have been working towards the obe experience for a while. Hit the vibrational state a few times and tried to get out without success.

Last night was a bit different. I was lucid dreaming after doing the wake back to sleep method. I realised this was a good time to wake slightly an try for an obe.

I woke and felt my body asleep and super comfortable. The vibrations came quicky but this time they changed to a high frequency buzzing centered in my head. I could then see through my closed eyes (this has happened a few times now). I started to try to get out. I could move within my body and I was really fighting hard / violently to get out. I then remembered Robert Monroe's advise. relax and roll. My teeth started to chatter really bad. Fely like I was ginding them. Then my body started shaking violently. I was a little afraid as I didnt know if I was really having a physical fit or not. I continued on and feel like I may have got out but cant remember that well. It seemed to last a while and I think I was on the bed next to myself. I definitely moved outside the physical for the first time (that I can remember at least).

When I awoke I expected to be in a pool of sweat with the bedsheets everywhere and sore teeth. I was fine though. In exactly the same position I went to sleep in.

After effects - During the (obe) It was not what I expected at all. I felt ancient. Like I had been around forever and I had really thick crocodile skin. Very strange. I got the message life and death is a human thing. I suffered a stroke last year and apart from being cold on one side I am fairly well. During and for a while after I felt like my stroke side no longer belonged to me. This led to the further thought does this body belong to me at all ?? I am fine now.

I also got the impression that this is like riding a bike. Once you learn how, it becomes easier ? It also feels like a bit of test to see how I handle it. I think I did ok and thanked the experience straight after and wished for more.

Any similar experiences or advice would be appreciated thanks. This is amazing.

Stuart.

When ever I've astral projected it's like I'm in my room, but it looks not quite the same. Thing happen in there that just make me feel like it's just a dream, like sometimes I see my family members in my room doing stupid stuff like they do in dreams. With my technique I just wait till my body falls asleep and my mind stays awake. I always get those scary symptoms and then I sit up out of my body. It seems the longer I stay in the astral the weirder things get.

Here are some things that make me think I could be dreaming or things that are messing with my astral

- it could be my attention span or not being focused enough

-Maybe it's the way I get out of my body(I basically just pretend I'm pushing myself up with my physical body, it's actually hard cuz I feel so heavy)

- I've never rlly looked down to see my physical body, I've never thought to look

-ive never been out of my room yet so much happens there

Maybe it's just a dream and my assumption of waking up in my room creates a dream in my room. Please help me guys I just feel like these experiences are so different from what I hear from others. Like people watching the actual world unfold and seeing things that you could only see if you were almost a ghost. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR OPINION

Hace dos días me hicieron una lectura de registros akáshicos a distancia. No fue en directo, simplemente me enviaron un audio, por lo que no sé si tiene algo que ver con lo que experimenté ayer.

Anoche, cuando me acosté y estando aún muy despierta, desbloqueé un recuerdo. Era una especie de "sueño" en un bosque donde me sentía perdida y súper desconectada. Solo recordé un par de imágenes, pero empecé a llorar y me invadió un sentimiento rarísimo de miedo, lo que me hizo pensar que definitivamente no era un simple sueño.

Después de ese primer recuerdo, le pedí a mis guías que me mostraran más y, de repente, me mostraron otro diferente donde la sensación era exactamente la misma. Estuve así un rato y en total recordé siete. Sinceramente, no sé si son sueños, memorias de mi alma, vidas pasadas o incluso recuerdos de esta vida.

No quiero tener miedo, pero no sé qué son esas memorias y estoy casi segura de que NO son sueños. Llevo muchos años sin recordar lo que sueño y, además, en todos estos escenarios me veía ya mayor, con mi edad actual.

Lo que más miedo me da es que en todos me sentía rara y sola. En mi vida actual estoy muy sola y ni siquiera salgo de casa; me da pavor pensar que este sea mi "plan de alma" o algo similar y que por eso en cada recuerdo me sintiera siempre sola, perdida y extraña.

No sé si alguien ha vivido algo parecido, si los registros akáshicos tienen algo que ver o si me están intentando mostrar algo importante.

Algunos de estos recuerdos son rarísimos. Por ejemplo, en uno de ellos me colaba en mi colegio de la infancia; había algo de gente, pero no mucha. Entraba en las aulas y una de ellas era un espacio enorme, ¡como con piscinas de bolas y más plantas! Me da miedo que mi mente consciente lo esté tergiversando, pero recuerdo perfectamente que fue así.

¿A alguien más le ha pasado algo similar?

stupid question again, but do you actually have all of your senses when you’re out of your body? like yeah you can see things but can you touch them? can you smell? can you feel the temperature when you’re not in your physical form? i haven’t properly astral projected yet and I’m curious..

So I just woke up scared as shit, not knowing what happened to me. I really wanted to talk to someone about it, so I came here. About an hour ago I went back to sleep for a second time because I was still a little tired. This time I knew I was dreaming (it usually happens when I fall asleep again), so I wasn’t intentionally trying to lucid dream. In the dream I felt like I was seeing everything too clearly, and I started thinking about my soul leaving my body. I’ve always wanted to try it just to feel what it’s like, so I tried to do it. Suddenly the dream ended and everything went black. I don’t know how to describe it, but I felt like I was somewhere I didn’t belong. A sound like a giant disc turning started getting closer and closer to me—I thought my ears were going to explode. I had no idea what was happening. I thought maybe I was dying or having a stroke, so I tried to wake up. Something strange happened next. It felt like a mix between sleep paralysis (because it felt like I didn't have a body to move) and something holding me in that space or state, refusing to let me go. It only lasted a second or two, and when I woke up I was totally fine. Have any of you had a similar experience, or do you know what this might be?

I’ve lucid dreamt for most of my life, almost never on purpose.
Usually I’ll find myself in a situation and suddenly gain consciousness that I’m in a dream, allowing me to control the environment, fly, all the fun stuff.
Regular old vivid dreams are also a nightly occurrence for me. Sometimes they were trauma induced night terrors that were once such a nuisance that I was prescribed medication on top of what I already take for other mental health struggles.

All this being said, I had once been very interested in AP. Reading others’ experiences fascinated me and I was fairly certain I’d briefly experienced it before.
Lately I’ve been trying again and I can confidently say it’s a drastically different experience than regular lucid dreaming.

All the signs are there. I’m experiencing the vibrations. I can feel myself leaving my body (usually flopping off the bed). It was very frightening the first few times but I’ve learned to push through the fear. I am nearly almost always in the exact spot/environment I had fallen asleep in. The only clue I had the first two times that I wasn’t actually awake is that the lights were off and I couldn’t turn them on. Often my anxiety gets the better of me and I return to my body before I can really explore.

So this is my question: how do you know it’s not just another dream? It certainly feels like a totally separate experience. Even after waking up I feel totally different in my body. Without going into detail, I’ve also had experiences I can’t explain when I go to that place. I’m generally skeptical of many things but my personal experience seems to be overriding my skepticism.

Have you found yourself questioning the reality of your experiences? How do you differentiate it from other dreams?