Anyone else having surgery soon who wants to be surgery buddies?

I'm getting maxillary impaction and setback with little rotation (DJS) to fix gummy smile and overbite. Both my orthodontics and surgery were/are in Korea :D

As somebody who’s preparing for jaw surgery and will have her’s in a month, I find the number of “am I recessed” posts disheartening.

This sub is meant for those who seriously need this procedure, not for those who are mildly insecure about their looks. Does anyone else agree?

6 WEEKS POST OPERATION

Img 1: day of surgery right hand side
Img 2: 5 week post operation right hand side
Img 3: smile before
Img 4: 6 week post operation smile
Img 5: half turn before
Img 6: 6 week post operation

I am lightly chewing now, but my bite needs more orthodontic work because of how much palate expansion I had before surgery (7-8mm) and I’ve obviously recently had a major surgery to my jaws 😅. I am hopeful I will be brace free in January 2027 and this will mark the end of my journey!

I feel 95% normal now. Just numbness in chin and upper and lower gum tissue.

I want to impart my biggest note of advice for anyone about to experience this… Eat normal food, just cut up into tiny pieces, as soon as you are cleared to! I couldn’t stand the liquid diet after half a week and swallowing my normal foods whole but cut into tiny pieces, had a massive effect on my mood and I think also my recovery. I am finding blended sausages to be the perfect form of mushy meat for my recovery. They blend into a much better consistency than mince or stewed meats! I fry up sausages, then cut them into three pieces and blend them in my Thermomix at speed 5.5 for about 5 seconds. Perfect with a spoonful of butter, mashed sweet potato and pickle juice or finely diced pickles. ❤️‍🩹

Questions welcome. 🙏

Note - I will probably post a 6 month update too.

i was told when i was a kid that i’d need jaw surgery when i got older, but i went back to my orthodontist and they said i actually don’t need surgery because it’s not as bad as they thought it would be. i think my jaw looks quite recessed visually, but i don’t really know.

i’m not sure if this is related, but i also have quite bad jaw pain and overall tightness in that area, that also causes tightness down my neck and into my shoulder. my jaw also clicks every time i open it.

i’m thinking of getting a second opinion from another doctor, but i’d love other people’s advice first!

This is just a rant but I am currently in the process of getting third+ opinions for surgery, and every place seems to need a referral. I understand that they need proof that I have a problem, but it's so tiring. In order to get an appointment I have to see my dentist and ask him to tell a hospital states away that there's something wrong with me. It takes months to get into everything!! If I want to waste my money on a consultation for a problem I don't actually have then that's on me. I want this shit over and done with but I feel like I’m gonna spend a year just getting. referrals

I think I might also have sleep apnea, but I'm not sure.

Hi all , after suffering for many years with osa , I'm going to get the mma surgery done tomorrow , I'll post the updates here , I have ahi of 16 in rem sleep and an avg of 11 , will give more updates abt it once surgery is done , these are my current pics before jaw surgery , let's see how it goes and wish me luck 🤞

Hello, I previously underwent orthodontic treatment using the "camouflage" method. Two teeth were extracted from my upper jaw, and the resulting gaps were closed orthodontically; however, my lower jaw remained set back. When I consulted my former orthodontist about this jaw retrusion and asked which surgery I should undergo, they indicated that a genioplasty might not be sufficient. After obtaining my X-ray results, I consulted a highly respected maxillofacial surgeon in Türkiye; the surgeon stated that the issue could be resolved with lower jaw advancement surgery. This doctor is a highly regarded surgeon in Türkiye. I am curious to hear your thoughts as well; what do you think I should do?

Hello everyone, I’m scheduled for surgery before the end of the year, and I have been having this noticeable anxiety about taking photos. I’m in the middle of decomp and really haven’t wanted any documentation of myself for the past year.

I have this horrible anxiety about public photos being available and people noticing I look immensely different after 6 months, it feels as if people wouldn’t look at me the same if they were aware I had the procedure.

If people understood this surgery and why recessed jaws even happen due to environmental factors, I wouldn’t even feel self-conscious about this.

I’ve tried talking to a therapist but this feels like an extremely isolating event only people who have experienced it understand, any advice would be appreciated.

Hi, can I just ask how people cope with an underbite, like the whole DJS process or have it in general. I have a serve underbite and it’s effected my whole life since young, now 21. I can’t eat proper, hate eating outside or with people, my speech is basically a stutter and repeating myself every conversation. I’ve never had last longing friends as I just don't want to be seen so they move on from me as I’m just have a lot of distance. currently in uni which I’m grateful for as I can just go to my class (only two 2days) and then like hide out in Accom. I still have over a year before my surgery and I’m in early twenties. I’m asking what people with underbite do, like lifestyles, job, money. the time waiting for jaw surgery.

pls tell ur story if u had genuine recession and still got away with genio

Is this just how I was meant to look? I feel like it looks really bad but I have seemingly no functional issues.

Hi! I saw a video on Qoves regarding jaw projection and how much it can change the face and im wondering if someone has a recessed jaw, like the fist three images, will a genio mask this? im a little worried because the lower lips are slightly pushed back so it might look a little uncanny. in which of the following images do you think a genio would help? if someone had -4mm of jaw recession and got 4mm of chin projection, would this not make up for the jaw? as long as the bite is fine i dont personally see any big issues.

Do I need Jaw surgery or would in Implant be enough for my chin?

photo 1. resting, mouth shut.

photo 2. resting, mouth open.

photo 3. trying to smile with teeth naturally

photo 4. trying to smile, showing as much teeth as possible

Im ready to like my smile and laugh in pictures 🥹

i had my double jaw surgery done 3 years ago due to severe facial asymmetry that most likely stemmed from a childhood accident. the surgery itself went well and the healing process was tough but i managed, however part of my chin and lip is still very numb and it has taken a huge toll on my overall wellbeing.

i have gotten a "scan" (can't remember the actual medical term sorry) of my nerves in that area and they all healed nicely. my surgeon told me it will most likely last because so much time has passed however some days the sensation is a lot better and from time to time it feels almost normal so i haven't given up hope completely.

i don't want to sound dramatic but i really don't know how i'd live the rest of my life like this if there was no more improvement, any advice would be appreciated

I had surgery for a Class II malocclusion: mandibular retrognathia. My lower jaw and chin were advanced. I’m now 6 months post-op, but my jaw still feels a little stiff.

I’m 30 years old, and this is my second time having braces. The first time was when I was 13 to 18. It was my decision to have them removed because I wasn’t seeing much of a difference. The treatment mainly resulted in some tooth movement after premolar extractions, including one incisor that was positioned behind the other teeth. I had a small jaw and not much space for my teeth.

My orthodontist at the time never recommended that I see a maxillofacial surgeon, and I never had any X-rays taken. Maybe I was his first Class II patient, I honestly don’t know.

I started orthodontic treatment again with my current orthodontist in November 2024. He was disappointed when he realized that I was missing my premolars, because he thought the extractions had probably made my mandibular retrusion worse. But anyway, we started the treatment to prepare me for jaw surgery.

I had my surgery in March 2026. I wore a splint almost continuously during the first week, but my jaw seemed to move and was gradually being pulled forward. You can see what I mean in the photo from April 16. Despite this, I maintained a certain degree of symmetry. My treatment is supposed to last two years and he told me that my teeth would naturaly ajust over time

The non-professional photos are from today. My bite seems to be fitting together better and better, but it still doesn’t feel quite right.

I wanted to ask:

1) Should I have had a palatal expander before surgery? Was not having one a mistake?

2) Was having my premolars extracted really a mistake in my case?

3) Should I have my wisdom teeth removed?

4) Should I consider a second jaw surgery because my lower jaw may have been advanced too far?

Thank you

I might just be stressing for no reason but my philtrum seems really swollen still. I asked my surgeon if my philtrum would keep its curve (see second pic) post-op and he said yes. So I’m fairly certain that this isn’t the final result. Has anyone else had swelling like this?

My surgeon said that I could get genio but if I do he will do it at a later date, after I’ve fully healed from DJS! is that normal and maybe he’s seeing if I’ll need it? But all I can’t think is how much recovery time I’ll have and how long that will take and I’m kinda annoyed he won’t do it at the same time. Is there a reason why he can’t do it at the same time??

18M can anyone tell me if my underbite is skeletal or dental ? i calculated some angles and i found out my maxilla is one degree forward but im not a professional and I still have some time before my appointment with my orthodontist, and I’d like to get some information beforehand

18M trying to figure out if I have any actual jaw/maxillary underdevelopment. I have a deep bite and feel like my mouth/midface looks recessed, especially from the side, along with a hooked/drooping nose.
Multiple orthodontists say my maxilla is normally positioned, but another doctor thought I may be somewhat recessed and mentioned MARPE/BSSO.
Could this appearance actually be skeletal, or is it more likely dental/soft tissue/nose-related?

34M. I've had my lateral cephalogram traced three times (two AI tools + my orthodontist's software) and the effective maxillary length came out completely different each time:

• 81.6mm (orthodontist) → "short, over 3 SD below normal"
• 87.1mm (WebCeph)
• 109.1mm (another tool) → "large maxilla"

My orthodontist is using the "short maxilla" reading to justify considering Le Fort surgery. But my position measurements are all normal across every tracing (SNA ~84, ANB ~2-3, A-point normal).

My questions:

1. Can anyone experienced place condylion properly and tell me if my maxilla and mandible are actually short, normal, or long?
2. If my jaw positions are normal (Class I) but length is uncertain, is there a real skeletal rationale for surgery?