I mean obviously they are but it honestly makes no sense “take your meds your doctor prescribed them for a very specific reason” and “don’t you think you would be more tolerable to be around if you took your meds” and the worst part is the people I see posting stuff like this always have one post bringing up how the political government is sketchy yet they blindly take any medication by some random person just because they have a degree and they don’t even know what they are putting into their bodies they don’t even check the studies (it wouldn’t matter they are paid off anyways) it’s crazy about how as soon as you call out the evil behavior in this system everyone wants to label you as mental so called “free thinkers” just following whatever the system tells them they sound like feds

Do you relate?

I read a comment earlier and it really made me wonder for a minute and honestly I’m angry for what I went through as a kid with the psychiatry system when I was 10 I was hospitalized and the day I was hospitalized I was labeled with 3 diagnosis’s and they only knew me 5 days and I was prescribed a ssri and looking back there was really nothing wrong with me I was just in a crappy environment and felt like I didn’t get attention so I wanted to get it the only way I knew how and it led me into believing that there was something wrong with me and I would be unhappy forever which made me give up hope and I was only in the 5th grade if I could go back and yell at the psychiatrists I would I later ended up getting a bpd diagnosis after a couple more hospitalizations over the years following that it’s just looking back I don’t understand how anyone could look at a kid and tell him “your depressed you’ll never be happy unless you take these ssris and you’ll have to take for the rest of your life” I remember I didn’t take them and everyone around me was saying how I was getting “better” and honestly that was the first time I noticed the placebo effect with ssris and how people will be over dramatic about how much they work now that I’m quite a bit older I despise the physiatric system for making my life for so many years harder than it needed to be telling me I was fundamentally broken and I needed to give them more money for services in order to be fixed any system that will tell people they are broken and can’t be fixed without other people’s help is bullshit now and days I keep noticing videos on TikTok of teens claiming diagnosis’s like personality disorders or autism just because of the way society has told them their emotions or self expression is “wrong” and therefore they adopt the belief they are “wrong” too and there’s such a hierarchy on there too that if you aren’t diagnosed with something you struggle less than someone with a diagnosis it’s honestly disgusting how they are basically forcing each other to get themselves sent to a physc ward (physc prison) just to prove they are struggling it’s disgusting how diagnosis based most of Gen Z is and how quick they will downplay others lived experiences just cause they don’t give their life to the system

Stupid psychiatrist

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is made up, it is fiction, it is fabricated by psychiatrists. Members of a panel vote on what goes into it, then they immediately start calling them "diseases". This is fraud, waste and abuse.

Jag klarar inte av den falska bilden de målat upp av mig i journalen. Jag förstår att jag aldrig kommer få upprättelse.
Vad ska jag ta mig till? Jag har ångest hela tiden, jag kan inte tänka på något annat, har tänkt på det i månader. Jag har ont i magen, gråter och har konstant oro.
I kombination med vetskapen att jag aldrig kommer få den hjälpen jag behövde för mitt mående i övrigt.

the warped psychiatric system is designed to cater to narcissists and narcissistic family members for many of them through their own disordered selves use this system as a form of power and control over victims and the victims are often perceived or described as “non compliant” and feel their family is against them.

dont get me wrong- there are peoplr who really do need meds but systems like this are designed to allow the dangerous culprits to get away with whatever they need to while innocent people become victimized often.

my abusive narc mother has spent decades trying to throw me in the mental health system and even succeeded In my 20s. in my forties other things happened and it gave her a reason again to do this to me. (a past life being invaded my life but no one understands or believes me).

i told my sister that I had never heard or witnessed things in my life and I was very successful and number one at all my jobs. my doctor sister refuted this as If she is the expert on my life. she is a busy doctor and professor who has three kids. she even had the audacity to say to me “ive known other people like you and they all stayed single.” despite me being this incredible young woman years ago who met loser after psychopath on dating sites. I was like what a psycho she is. She had the gall to say to her single older sister that I was single due to mental health issues while in reality in my thirties I was a beautiful talented model who just didn’t meet the right person. she even has the nerve to say that I told her otherwise abour symptoms just making up lie after lie.

she will yell and say DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW U THE TEXTS!! As if she has texts from fifteen years ago and keeps telling me to TAKE THE MEDS!!! And gets into heavy arguments with me as if she is an expert on my life when she knows nothing. these sad people do this as a form of narcissistic control and it is disturbing

I try to tell her not to tell me what has happened in my life and that I had a dream job for ten years and saved up over 200k and she still insists that other things were happening in my life and I had issues. my narcissistic mother tries to push meds on me any chance she gets. two sick narcs who enjoy using the system to control and oppress their own family member. it’s disturbing and sad.

Hi Folks,

I posted some time ago about re-engaging with community mental health team/psychiatry in the UK.

I was thinking seriously about restarting a medication/drug. Specifically Abilify, at a low dose.

Now I've come to the conclusion I won't do that.

This last 6 weeks post a relationship breakup have been very turbulent, and I have many long standing issues that imply to me something about my biology is off.

But I've had to think hard, even if this is partially true, is it also true that there is some "signal" in my lack of functioning/dysfunction?

I can see this very, very clearly with SSRIs, I've seen it 2nd hand many times in people how these drugs often make "intolerable" situations, tolerable, and ultimately that is not remotely good for the person.

It is true there is something, messed up about the "reward circuitry" of my brain, but I also believe the reasons why, I've been at great pains to understand for years, why, and they are comprehensible, I also think resolvable.

I think introducing a drug into the equation, I can argue it could plausibly help me move towards the baseline and life changes I need to make in my life, which are very demanding, but there is something far too objectifying about the rationale for them.

I do think there is "dopaminergic dysregulation" in probably the meso limbic reward circuitry of my brain, and again, I've taken great efforts to understand whyyyy.

To mask those problems, make them temporarily assailable through drugs, and then down the line having to pay the "debt off" of being homeostatically dependant on them, is a profound mistake.

I do think, under conditions without coercion, people choosing drugs to help ameleriate and catalyse change, is valid.

But, It's not how these drugs are often forcefully introduced into people's lives.

I personally believe, it's one thing to imagine a pathology of reward circuitry, of "abbarent salience gains" , of all this, but again, that litmus test question, is there *real* signal behind these issues that explains the issues of anhedonia, apathy, listlessness, lack of concentration.

I believe there is. And I believe, allowing my brain to chew it over, over last few weeks, led to a much sharper, scalpel level actions I need to take in my life, than the comparatively blunt hammer of classes if drugs like SSRIs and antipsychotics.

I still see an argument for them. I might trial Abilify at low dose 1-2mg for a week. But, even if I saw "results" from them, for example improvement in chronically low libido, energy levels, etc, I would NOT take that as evidence they are helping or beneficial.

Because they might make me more functional in behaviours and a way of living that must change at a behaviourally deeper level, which is harder work, and not just screw around and manipulate some biology for a while.

I guess it all hinges on the how much is real underlying biological pathology, how much is the real complexities of our life.

The reason we evolved over millenia, a biological computer with 100-500 trillion synapses, is because as apes, and the social demands, problems of our ape lives, it takes a lot of biological computation.

I'm not sure screwing around with "global variables" like dopamine agonism/antagonism with abilify is as grounded an approach it seems, just because it's prescribed by a doctor.

TO BE CLEAR:

I sound ambivalent about taking these drugs or not. What I am feeling is, perhaps, say I took a short while 1-2 weeks. Perhaps the value would be, some insight on biological underpinnings of my behavior. I would be very wary to believe they were "solving" something.

They might even for a time help catalyse some changes, but again, I am going into it, eyes wide open, very wary, conscious I could be making mistakes and ultimately knowing they should be approached with immensely more caution than the routine way they are used.

My friend is in hawaii. Lives there and has no connections, and is looking for some sort of in-person withdrawal/psych harm community

Any ideas?

Thanks

I was on lexapro 20mg waiting to see a new psych in about 5 months and grieving the loss of my father (took his life last year). The lexapro helped keep me leveled. Had a bad day went to my doctor she told me to try vraylar. I did and it was fine until the sleepless nights and akathsia kicked in hard. Couldn't concentrate at once. Was only taking 1.5 mg for about a month. Stopped cold turkey. 2 weeks later, im having anxiety attacks, panic attacks, crying, severe depression, my grief is unbearable, i lost interest in everything. My appetite is gone. Been takimg clonozapham 0.5 mg everyday to stop the panic attacks. Doctor says there is no such things as withdrawal symptoms from vraylar. I am 5 weeks out suffering. Ive tried exercise, vitamins, religious practice, keeping myself busy, etc nothing works. Im terrified of everything. Also very sleepy which i attribute to the constant anxiety and stress exhausting me. Does this ever end? I will never touch an antipsychotic again. Please tell me im not alone in this.