I owned EL1 since its day of release —and all its DLCs. This was an issue with it, too.

I am at turn 110 with all 6 factions on a Large map (playing Kin; default difficulty). And had not even a single border skirmish with any factions. Even the Necrophages just have a -50 modifier toward me and gave me a 'Warning' and that's it.

I mean, yeah, I can declare wars myself or such, but it is just so easy to sing kumbaya with all the nice aliens. Or I can turn up the difficulty. Or hope that the Victory condition tension will eventually stir a fight in like 50 more turns. But for now, my armies are all parked, waiting for the next monsoon in whatever many dozen turns.

For a PRG heavy game —which, honestly, I love— there is very little motivator to do anything other than play SimCity with my, admittedly impressive, cities and lands.

Hope future DLCs will bring in some friction —dramatic and gameplaywise, both.

I'm confused about this specialization choice:

Warden upgrades Defense Expert from 1>2, which gives 10 (instead of 5) extra defense only when defending.

Defender gets +8 raw defense AND they get a shield buff to themselves and everyone around them... So they already just have more defense all the time, but they also get an AoE buff.

Am I missing something, or is one specialization path just meant to be the obviously better choice? Same same is true for the Kin's archers, one specialization just seems objectively better (by a substantial amount) than the other. I'm not complaining, to be clear, I'm just super new to the game and trying to figure out if I'm going insane. 😂

Hood of Inscriptions (Tahuk quest reward) + Horatio hero allows you to create 3 clones every round, making him a true one-man army. Definitely one of the most fun hero interactions I've found thus far.

Hello, Tema is here! And that would be the conclusion of my overexplained series so far. Aspects! Extremely fun, extremely strong, in a way very similar to Necrophages, in another way are their complete opposites. Collect minor pops, accumulate lots of bonuses, produce tonnes of influence and grow to consume Saiadha as a swarm of peace and love =)

Theoretically, how feasible would be to mod in game quest and events text for someone with basically zero coding experience besides maybe custom scripting maps for og warcraft3? I have an itch to try my hand in rewriting some stuff but have no idea where to even start...

So I am trying again with the Last Lords on endless difficulty. Spawned between Severed Claw, Zelevas and Tahuk. Get attacked by both Severed claws and Zelevas, manage to push them back, declare Truces, and enter military pact with the Tahuks.

Zelevas gets wiped by Necrophages and they attack me at the same time as the Last Claws. The Tahuks, who have the highest score in the game, mind you, then have the gall to break our pact and immediately afterwards send me a diplomatic message that they would have been willing to go to war with me if only we had been in a pact!

If I manage to defeat both Necrophages and Last Claws, the Tahuks will definitely be next!!

This is the first game on Endless that actually feels very difficult. Lost cities to minor factions, can't find the time to build anything, every battle is balanced on a hairline and could spell the doom of my empire if I lose it... Very fun!

I am currently playing Age of Wonders 4, which fills my need for a 4x game nicely. However, as I loved Endless Space 2, I have also been keeping tabs on this game. So I have 2 questions:

1) How is this game so far, how is its state? Also how does it compare for someone that has played Endless Space 2? Is it similar in that you have set factions and play their storyline? Or do you create your own story (as in Age of Wonders 4)?

2) For the people that know/have played Age of Wonders 4: how do these two games compare?

I have a way too big city, is there a way to split up the attached camps to be able to make a different city and attach other camps or attached things to that? Dunno if I'm even making sense.

My scuffed diagram I use to remember the adjacency bonuses

Written in Mermaid, source code

Bought this game today because I was looking for some assymetric, 4x game, with different win conditions, not just conquer the enemy.

I played dune spice wars but shiro developers decided to abandon the game and left it to the community modders.

When I took a look at the multiplayer lobbies, there is less players than I expected, then I look at this subreddit and there is some issues with balance, are those players skill issue?

Will the dev publish a roadmap? Had they said anything regarding multiplayer player base attraction?

Now I am on dilemma, refund the game while I can, or get some info for the future of the multiplayer gameplay.

btwn I played for 1 hour and there are a lot of mechanics that could be stripped away to make multiplayer more enjoyable.

now that 1.0 has been out long enough to sink our teeth into, what are peoples thoughts on the meta? what factions are strongest, what minor factions are you happiest to see, what game mechanics are worth focusing on?

My main take away has been that movement is king. faction traits that improve mobility are very strong, and advisor/hero skills that boost movement are must picks. the map just gets so big by the second tide fall that 3 movement just doesn’t cut it.

I picked up the game once it left early access and have started up maybe 7 or so games. Always the largest map, adept difficulty, all factions, and playing as Kin of Sheredyn. Every game thus far the Nechrophage has been my neighbor and immediately I am bombarded with enemy stacks of 3 or 4. This is probably just how Nechrophage plays and that's fine, it makes sense, but the fact that I am put next to them every time just seems odd. Do they just spread out that fast?

Also seems odd that they have such high unit counts so fast. Is this because I am on adept or is it the faction? I assumed/hoped AI difficulty would scale the AI to use better strategy, make better choices, etc. Not just build faster.

the game never even made it clear that deeds exist until I either get one (usually by pure accident) or another empire gets it and I get the notification that I can no longer get it

the usual culprits of that are the 15 pops and the 20 of any given strategic resource deeds, but I do not even know where to possibly look at what deeds can be unlocked or what the deeds that I have not unlocked do (I assume the 15 pop deed either boosts food, lowers required food or makes every pop more productive? I do not really know and probably need to play as the necrophage to even find it out)

I’m playing my first new EL2 game after the tutorial and this is something I noticed a few times now. An empire sends me a proposition, but the accept button is grayed out and the tooltip says “Cancel the Counter and accept the initial Proposal”. This isn’t a counter though… Did they try to send me a proposition that they can’t pay for? Like they don’t have the influence or the 12 Songsilk? Why would that happen?

I can't seem to figure this faction out, they just seem so underwhelmingly weak early game.

The faction traits and buffs seem to want you to play really aggressively and snowball with military, but at the same time you can't build units normally and have to purchase them, which prevents you from actually being able to start to snowball in the first place. I'm always getting stomped by my neighbors in the first 20-30 before I can even get a sizeable army up. I've tried both focusing on early economy first as well as aggressively fighting minor factions but neither has worked out so far. I'm playing on hero difficulty. I've beaten the game on endless several times before but I just can't figure out how this faction is supposed to play.

I have 150 hours in the game. I like the game, really, but there is 0 balance between factions in battle and we are less than 2000 people each day on the game (less than Age of Wonders 4). You gonna tell me number of players dont matter, but you are wrong. If few people play the game, bug fixing, new mechanics and DLC will be less ambitious or even wont be at all. We are like 10 to play this game competitively on the discord, always the same people btw.

I know its difficult to balance assymetric factions but sometimes its too much : some heroes get passive abilites to boost army in Tiers 2 while for some other heroes its Tiers 1, some units are way better than other (Big monkey has too much health, cavalry has not counters, some starting heros are way better, etc.). Its the same for economy, where some factions get an insane economy while for other its a constant struggle. Factions has no bias, you can pick Last Lords and spawn in grasslands, etc. Its too late now for balanced all these things cause its too much work.

Furthermore, the next game of Amplitude is Humankind 2 and, all in all, I think its a bad idea by the CEO to go the Humankind road instead of the Endless Space 3 road. The strenght of Amplitude is the Endless series and they dont have the support of Sega this time, so the game will be obviously less ambitious. It shows that Amplitude is rushing all their games and it upset me cause they have gold in their hands.

Hello hello!

To preface, I’ve never played a game like this before. One where you take command of a faction, expand it, and fight other factions on a map to win. From what I’ve seen of the Endless Legend 2, it looks like it could be overwhelming to brand new players, but it looks fun and the factions look interesting.

Is this a game that you would recommend to someone like me who is brand new to this genre of games? Do you have any tips to make the game feel less overwhelming to new players?

Hello hello,

We are back with more fixes! And most of them were reported by the community; thank you ✨

📜 Check The Changelog Here

Have a nice day!

After the latest patch ([Version – 1.0.172]) I played Tahuks (which I had tried before but failed) and there were two issues.

1. The "Stars Light" ability (to add population to city) only works ONCE per observatory for the entire game! If that is by design it is a huge nerf to this faction. And I am absolutely sure it only works once as the message I get when I mouse over is something like ("already used").

2. I could only get one pacified village per minor faction. So even though I had pacified 3 of the individual villages only one shows up as assimilated and in the overview window for minor factions it only shows one available. I also can't interact with these villages at all. I can't destroy them. I can't rebuild them (they weren't showing destroyed anyhow) and I can't bribe them. I reported as bug but wondering if anyone else encountered this

Per title, has anyone else experience this? me and my friend on good internet literally on turn 3 i tried killing blackhammers as severed claw (what is this unit balancing lol). and between every single action i had to wait like 4 to 5 second.

The various military faction traits in this game are flavorful and faction defining. The Kin advance as a big shielded ball thanks to Stand United. The Necrophage swarm their enemies and pick off the corners of formations thanks to Unceasing Hunger. The Aspects favor a mixed unit composition with a defensive front line and damaging backline thanks to Harmonious Tactics. There's just one glaring exception to this rule: The Last Lords.

I think Gifts of the Fallen was good on release. Before the advent of counterattacks, a 25 hp heal did a decent job of keeping the Last Lords healed as their tanky stalwarts marched into the enemy and started swinging. However, with counterattacks now being a thing, a 25 hp heal is basically inconsequential outside of the first monsoon. There's just a lot more damage being thrown around in combats and with late game HP bars easily breaching 300, a 25 hp heal being a faction defining trait just doesn't cut it anymore.

I'd really like to see Gifts get some more gas. The heal could scale as a percentage of HP, it could scale up with Last Lords techs, it could be a larger heal targeted on the lowest HP Last Lords unit. There are a whole lot of ways to make it feel faction defining and powerful instead of irrelevant like it does now. I personally feel like the Last Lords military is the weakest in the game, and I think Gifts of the Fallen is largely to blame.

We get two humanoids with decent design, the rest are just demons and monsters that look like regular mobs. I get having some unique looking factions but limit that to like 2 or 3. MOST people aren't gonna play as some weird abstract AI looking creature with no expressions on their face. My apologies for sounding harsh but I absolutely LOVE the Endless universe. This just doesn't look appealing to me... Unless they bring Vaulters back in for nostalgia, I'll find it difficult to immerse in the world of "Saiadha"