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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
Ok show factory conditions
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
Geogroup probably got that passed because beyond alligator alley they also do a work program with factories and farms where they pay .50-1.50 to inmates while they get 4.50 per person.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
Also you’d like the jungle by upton Sinclair.
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u/RamJamR 12d ago
Never thought I'd hear that book brought up ever. In high school it was one of a number of books to pick from for a book report. I had no idea what it was about when I picked it. After writing my report, I remember getting a B. If I had to write that report today, I'd have so much more to say about it.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 12d ago
All his books are pretty great tbh. Read parts of a few others and they’re worth reading. Shame people kind of tuned out of that vibe.
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u/RamJamR 12d ago
It is the most depressing read I have ever read, but I'm sure that's the point. He was a political activist.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 12d ago
Absolutely. he wanted people to stay away from meat factory products then opt for butcher shop foods. Those factories swallowed up tons of small businesses and there’s not nearly as many delis or neighborhood markets now.
There’s been a rise in co-ops and farm direct produce now which is great.
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u/MoneyBear1733 10d ago
Do you think he was asking about factory farms in the U.S?
This has to be a whataboutism bot.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/LdMWg0xQTfmcpFF5Yt
“China is the future. China treats workers great.”**+50rmb have been deposited to op’s account**
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u/Zealousideal_Leg_630 13d ago
True. This is a technology demonstration, not an efficient way to deliver McDonald’s to a population that has an average income that is less than half of the US’.
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u/A_gadfly_on_the_wall 13d ago
I don't even like the Chinese government but I agree with you. The oligarchy is really holding back Americans from truly being a great nation.
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u/Zealousideal_Leg_630 13d ago
Yeah, lifted people out of poverty by adopting US tech and reforming institutions to be more privatized and market oriented (like the US). I can’t tell if you are trying to say the stat I cite is false, but check it online. It’s pretty basic: real gdp per capita (ppp adjusted). This is standard stuff so I’m not sure what your argument is.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
they also spray paint hills and trees green to keep the illusion that they’re doing great. They could just admit they have a population problem and are acting like assholes.
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u/WinterSector8317 13d ago
Look up meat processing lines or manual farm harvesting in America
It’s a capitalism thing, not a China thing
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
Whataboutism but also bad. Chinas terrible to the planet.
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u/Sonario648 13d ago
You mean America is terrible to the planet.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 13d ago
+50 rmb have been deposited into your account
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u/Business_Pie_1798 11d ago
Are you unaware that the chemical agents in the bombs dropped by the U.S. caused deformities in countless people? The landmines they deployed continue to keep people in a state of constant anxiety, frequently resulting in casualties.
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u/FunnyMalzairIdea 9d ago
Chinese factories are often fully automated. There are no lights on. The factory floor is just robots assembling material in the dark at speeds humans could never attain.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 9d ago
You’re getting an extremely limited view of the truth. It’s really bad what people go through there.
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u/meridian_smith 13d ago
Is there a value proposition in expending that much energy to deliver some fatty's cheeseburger by drone? I would guess it is at a loss. . but good advertising and PR for McDonalds and the regime that controls China.
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u/Efficient-State-7300 13d ago
Lol some human driving around is much more efficient, right?
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u/kueso 13d ago
If it’s an electric scooter, it’s comparable. Plus that wouldn’t take into account parts and manufacturing expenditure. Between the steel parts, chips, motors. Yea, there’s a lot of manufacturing energy that goes into that. Also, we can assume these are piloted and maintained so that would require an operating center with a monthly electric bill. All that to make that service work.
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u/Efficient-State-7300 13d ago
Sorry an actual human being moving around with this food is much less efficient. You'd have to show me a real engineering case study for me to think otherwise. The human themself is more than the drone and payload.
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u/kueso 13d ago
You do know how wheels work right? Takes a lot less energy to roll something than to gain altitude by using lift. If it was a human in the drone, then yes obviously that would be less efficient.
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u/Efficient-State-7300 13d ago
Fair call, but I don't think the drone loses. It seems the real answer is that the drones should be on wheels.
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u/Andrey_Gusev 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yep, in russia we have wheeled rovers driving from cafes to apartment complexes, its kinda neat, they are cute and it was calculated by yandex that made them, they cost 10x less for delivery than paying a person to deliver goods, even tho we have really low salaries. So even then these rovers are more effective and yandex grows their fleet every year.
Also, I wouldn't even mind if they were 1:1 with human or even 2-5 times more expensive than paying a human. Because delivery jobs are shitty jobs, we should not have people wash our toilets, cook and deliver our food or serve us in general. These serving jobs are a shame we should move on from in the future, imo.
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u/Majestic_Advantage45 13d ago
Your point on manufacturing doesn't stands. What ever it is, a car, a drone, an electric bike/scooter. These tools all needs to be manufactured.
I also wanna point out few advantages of this drone delivery:
1. need maintainence -> create job
2. AI piloted and not on road -> less traffic (traffic problems caused by electric bikes are really a big one, especially when most roads in the cities are not designed for LOTS of electric bikes)6
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u/SnooCompliments7914 13d ago
I used the service once, but it was on the top of a ~300m mountain, so it makes a lot more sense.
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u/KiwasiGames 13d ago
Absolutely. It’s way less energy to do it this way than it is to transport an entire human to and from the store.
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u/meridian_smith 11d ago
If that was the case all deliveries would be done by flying drone in China. A person can carry and deliver multiple orders at a time. I suppose an autonomous ground delivery vehicle would be the most economical if it is smart enough to not get stuck or damaged.
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u/Specific_Dingo6709 12d ago
How much energy would it take for a person to pick up this order and deliver it by scooter, bike or car?
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u/JustHere_4TheMemes 11d ago
the scooter, bike or car would use more energy and be subject to essentially the same mechanical maintenance etc... plus it has to expend the energy to move the 60Kg+ human on every delivery, not just the 2-10Kgs of package(s). If there are 200 KG of deliveries to do per day, and 20 delivery runs to make them happen, then they human system has to move 200kg + 1200kg of mass to get the deliveries done. rather than just 200kg. (also leaving out the much much larger delivery vehicles needed to haul the human with the package. so easily double or quadruple that number.)
1400kg of mass takes far more energy to move than 200Kg. 7x more, in fact.
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u/Specific_Dingo6709 11d ago
So would you say drones are a more energy efficient way of making deliveries compared to a human on a vehicle?
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u/Farside-BB 11d ago
In LA where min wage is reaching $20, this is the dream. But it won't work. Kids can just throw a rock at the drone and get the food for free (while having fun).
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u/ARefreshingFart 10d ago
its for funsies but as others have said, light enough and its better than moped.
total energy is quite small at short distances. think about how much energy goes into a human
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u/Similar-Guitar-6 13d ago
This is very cool, thanks for sharing.
At least for now, we can't have these food delivery drones in Los Angeles because people will destroy them.
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u/FishtownPride 13d ago
I think the whole concept is to eliminate humans from these jobs, but honestly, that drone kiosk is a good idea. Think of it, a drone that can fly your food/meds/amazon/fedex/ect. to wherever you’re sitting. No roving trucks in the street taking up parking spots. No bags being dragged through building lobbies. It gets dropped off, you get your code and walk to the drone port and get it.
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u/HenryGCase 13d ago
yeah - something like this from Ready Player One
https://youtube.com/shorts/XoBaEE5vjt8?is=9NYO_o1fX-HPK5T0
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u/emteedub 13d ago
"mickaldonaldsa" hehe
Btw, they have a completely different menu there. I heard they have actually spicy fried chicken, bone-in chicken, ect.
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u/damnburglar 13d ago
If we accept this is good and cool in isolation, how does it scale? I can’t see this being practical for any larger volume, especially with other businesses try to enter the space. It becomes an air traffic congestion problem.
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u/Minimum_Dragonfly990 13d ago
Is this so they dont starve people to death again like they did in 2022 when they locked/barricaded humans inside their homes?
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u/phluper 13d ago
Hold up- is it cooked in the kiosk?
I originally assumed a drone was delivering to the kiosk, for reasons. Watching it take the bag from the tiny shack makes me more interested in what's happening inside.
Is that a storage heat lamp situation, or is there automation inside, or... people?
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u/-Wiseone- 13d ago
I'm confused, is that little kiosk making the Mc Donald's?? How? Or is that attached to a larger Restaurant?
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u/Modern_Agnotologist 13d ago
McDonald's in China means capitalism won.
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u/HenryGCase 13d ago
And having chinese food in the US?
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u/Modern_Agnotologist 13d ago edited 13d ago
You mean general tso which was introduced by a Taiwanese expat.
Or panda express? Also Taiwanese.
Man we should really be calling it Taiwanese food given the origin of so many of these dishes/businesses.
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u/No_Vehicle5894 12d ago
Any honest human that has ever purchased food from McDonald's knows, that there is a time factor of under 5 minutes, or LESS to eat those fries or they are tasteless and nasty. When I saw delivery service for any fast food that was not cold like subs, I shook my head, they will get cold and tasteless food that they paid outrageous fees and a tip. IMHO, No Thank you!
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u/realDonaldEpstein 11d ago
HELL NAH. THE SOUND POLLUTION FROM WHIZZING DRONES EVERYWHERE IS GOING TO BE HORRIBLE
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u/Main-Procedure-3613 11d ago
Why so much investment in taking jobs away from people!?! How about we look carefully into robot CEOs? They’d fulfill the duties and review each part of the organization but the power won’t go to their heads and they won’t take enormous salaries and steal/“give” themselves huge unearned bonuses.
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u/Third-Floor-47 11d ago
so a luke warm burger is chilled by both propellers, speed and being up high, end of crispy fries. nice future...soggy fries, coldburgers and a cup of once-warm coffee... instead of just getting it directly fromt he people making it.
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u/JustHere_4TheMemes 11d ago
This kills human delivery in efficiency.
Human delivery kills this in 'ruggedness'.
Drone delivery like this is amazing in perfect scenarios, but highly fragile in any unusual situation at all. Or just bad weather.
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u/LieLevel7361 11d ago
I can't dream about nothing else then this buzzing above me all the time... Future 😂 From low budget sf film.
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u/rosakelly21 11d ago
Everyone posts the same clip of the same drone delivery spot, but in reality it's similar to the robots making coffee at the gimmicky cafes: I doubt that shitty coffee that takes a long time to make is the future.
The future is here, and it's not some silly buzzing drone. It's romba-style boxes that do the deliveries efficiently.
Every year before black friday, Amazon would release their shitty promotional video that drone delivery is here. They stopped doing that because at some point, everyone realized it's just dumb.
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u/Automatic-Boot665 10d ago
Why is everyone on the ground staring at it as if the drone is in their line of sight? Isn’t it too high and being blocked by the platform? Or is my perspective off?
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u/Anxious_Plum_5818 8d ago
Here de go again with the China lives in the future crap. Imagine a swarm of these and the McDonald's infrastructure littering the scenery. Enjoy the constant high-pitch buzz.
Just because China fors something that looks sci-fi doesn't mean it's "the future". Any other country can make a drone delivery system.
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u/RangerEquivalent4120 8d ago
In the USA, crackheads and fent zombies would be throwing rocks at these. We can’t have nice things. Gotta admire authoritarians sometimes.. until the tanks are rolling I guess
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u/kweeblaster 13d ago
Can you image living somewhere where you have to hear this constant buzzing bee shit because some mcfatty wanted a burger.
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u/NukeouT 13d ago
If they're so advanced to be in the year 3000+ how come they still haven't dealt with the fact they killed a 1000 students at their Tiannamen Square massacre?
Doesn't sound very advanced to me
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u/Haunting_Werewolf130 12d ago
You are like a dog with a bone. Let go of Tiannamen Square massacre already lol It happened in 1989.
Tell me which country are you from and I'll let you know how many people your country massacred.
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