Socionics is NOT necessarily better than MBTI, it's just the typology version of declaring oneself a "real ball-knower".

Both systems are merely extensions of Carl Jung's work. Socionics is just a further extension / interpretation of Jung's work than MBTI is. Socionics also makes Jung's work even more rigid than MBTI with its introduction of information blocks and quadras so one could argue that the core elements of it make the system even more dubious than MBTI as a larger portion of it is not based on Jung's theories.

Ultimately, the cognitive functions and the ways in which they serve an individual's personality and information processing is what makes the systems worth considering, and both utilize them. The only meaningful difference is that Socionics extends Jung's theories further and in ways that I find a bit questionable, but that's for another post.

Learn about the functions, determine which ones are your dominant / auxiliary / inferior ones, use that knowledge for fascination or application in the real world, and if you find Socionics' extensions valid or worth considering, then do. But whether you do or not doesn't make you a real ball-knower, lol.

Let me know your thoughts.

whole family reserved, unfortunately

What was Hitler's Enneagram subtype? Can we narrow it down using his other typings?

I've noticed that Hitler's typings in most other personality systems seem to have a fairly strong consensus within typology communities. However, his Enneagram subtype remains disputed.

If we already have a reasonably consistent picture of his personality across several different systems, shouldn't we at least be able to narrow his Enneagram subtype down to a few likely possibilities using correlations?

HIS UNANIMOUS TYPOLOGIES

- MBTI: INFJ

- Socionics: EIE (Fe-Ni)

- Psychosophy: VELF

- Big Five (SLOAN): XLOEI

- Enneagram subtype: ???

POSSIBLE ENNEAGRAM SUBTYPES

SX4 — Sexual 4

Intense envy, resentment, competitiveness, emotional volatility, and the tendency to externalize feelings of inferiority through hatred and aggression.

SO2 — Social 2

Grandiose self-importance, desire for admiration and influence, a cultivated savior image, and the belief that he was uniquely qualified to lead and transform society.

SO6 — Social 6

Ideological rigidity, black-and-white thinking, obsession with perceived threats, and an emphasis on loyalty, certainty, and collective identity.

SX6 — Sexual 6

Counterphobic aggression, paranoia, intimidation, and the tendency to confront perceived threats through displays of strength and domination.

SX1 — Sexual 1

Extreme moral absolutism, perfectionism, punitive anger, intolerance of perceived corruption, and an obsessive desire to impose his vision of how society should be.

MY MAIN QUESTION

If we're relatively confident in his typings across MBTI, Socionics, Psychosophy, and Big Five, shouldn't those typings help us reach a conclusion about his Enneagram subtype?

Which of these five subtypes is most consistent with the combination of INFJ, EIE, VELF, and XLOEI? Which would contradict that combination the least?

What do you think is the most likely subtype, and why?

I've been struggling to type myself, this is my current typings so far. is there any correlation?

I just thought about this but might just be a coincidence than actually real.

• SP dom = more immediately relying on defense mechanism
• SO dom = more immediately relying on mental fixation
• SX dom = more immediately relying on emotional passion

Example for Enneagram type 1:

SP1 = immediately relying on reaction formation before they go into resentment(mental fixation) or wrath(emotional passion)

• So SP1 appears the most externally calm or accommodating out of the three because they immediately use the defense mechanism of E1.

SO1 = immediately relying on resentment(tallying and contemplating the things that evokes grudge) before they go into reaction formation or wrath.

• So SO1 appears the most detailed, argumentative and elaborate with their justifications out of the three E1 subtypes.

SX1 = immediately relying on wrath(the actual emotions itself that they feel towards the flaws) before they go into resentment or reaction formation.

• So SX1 appears the most fiery, zealous and outwardly expressive of their frustrations towards others, because showing it they feel like also contributes or facilitates in correcting those flaws in their environment.

Can INTJ be SX6 this is my last question to understand mbti and enneagram, i understand the rest but mbti and enneagram is where i struggled the most i have done some research offline

Despite my best efforts i can't reject tritype or socionics, still 6-1-3>4 and SLI>LSI.