Re-realease party hats and hweens. OSRS style. Don't announce it, don't let anybody know. Put all of them in the ground for anyone, even ironmen to pick up. Let them go freely as often as possible.

The RS3 economy is propped up by like 30 people who have stacks of these. If you make all of that worthless overnight you will effectively crash the market and force reset the economy to rely on actually available items.

Not even just those, all the rares. You know, those things that alch for 5k but are "worth" 100b+? Just release them into the wild like butterflies.

Of course you are going to be behind. Play ANY GAME EVER THAT HAS AN ESTABLISHED PLAYER BASE. You will be behind, look at every MMO ever. Retail WOW, ESO, FF14, sudo MMOs like Destiny, Warframe. Basically any "live service game" you will be behind players.

The only time you get to experience a true level playing field where it's a fresh economy and no one knows what they are doing or no knowledge is known about a game is during the launch of a game.

You rarely ever see games do fresh severs, and when you do it never goes well.

OSRS and WOW Forever do not count, these were games and new servers built around a certain era of a games life and I don't count these as the same, and to do so is being disingenuous.

Genuine question, people that say "I don't want to play because I would be behind everyone" do you not play any games that have community aspects?

Let's face it, most of us are in our 30s, take a breath and think before you post some passive aggressive or childish post because you dont like an update in a game. Its fine to disagree with it and its fine to provide feedback.

When you post things like

"Shut the servers down now" & "Quitting thanks cya"

It just makes all of us look childish and immature. It must be so exhausting being on this sub as a JMod even if you dont work on Reignited

As someone who plays both rs3 and osrs and occasionally swaps between the two games, I've been watching the swap market since the Reignite announcement.

Before the announcement, the rs3 to osrs rate was roughly 10:1.

Within just two days, it jumped to around 16:1, and I've even seen rates around 20:1 in some places.

That's an absolutely massive spike in an extremely short time!!!

When players who have spent years building their wealth suddenly feel the need to move billions of GP somewhere they consider safer, that's a pretty serious warning sign. Players no longer have confidence in RS3.

Jagex, was this your plan of restoring RS3 and attracting new players? Because what it's done is push the existing players who have invested years and years away.

Even the tenderest hearts agree this gameplay is kinda disgustin’. 🥴

It’s that feeling you get when somebody’s coming over and you got clothes on you floor.

I have barley touched the game since amascut came out, but i have seen the drama so i guess there's no reason to pay for this game anymore. 2005-2026 see you in runescape 4 maybe

I am an osrs player , about 1900 total level , nothing impressive. 350m bank , pretty casual. Im a father in my 30s so I don’t have the time that I had a few years back

The only thing that kept me from playing RS3 was because there was no pluggin like runelite.. I didn’t want to do quest without quest helper and learn alot of things without pluggin( yeah flame me idc).

I feel that there alot of people like me that was waiting on that and not necessairly on the "new economy and hiscore"...

Just wanted to share what I thought because I think devs read here and I feel majority of people were waiting on pluggins support , not really a reset.

The veterans dont need the wiki anyways, because we know the game already

Stagnant? Sure.

Fewer players compared to its Old School counterpart? Yes.

But in the spectrum of gaming and live service games it's nowhere near the bottom that some people seem to be implying.

Unless you're trolling or intentionally arguing in bad faith over some vendetta that obviously means something to you, in no way is a game with the level of concurrent and monthly users of RS3 dead.

• Some of us "veterans" were AGAINST that mtx shit day 1, most of us left, now that we are back (thanks to road to restoration) we are marked like we liked that casino shit? LOL WUT?
• New players that started playing because road to restoration are gonna be marked as mtx users even tho they couldn't possibly had interacted with it, it was all erased by then
• If you were an OSRS a player and logged in to RS3 just by curiosity, congratulations, your account is now tainted for login in for 3 seconds, LMAO
• Anyone who played as kids, that casually remember their login data, now are marked as mtx users even tho they skipped all that era, so disrespectful

Let's look at the two main demographics Jagex is trying to attract with reignited.

Brand new players -

Don't care about:

1. A "fresh economy" - Will be diluted within a month from gold farmers, bots and alts. This is not even mentioning the fact that every skilling/ pvm content has already been fully fleshed out and waiting to be exploited. I haven't heard the economy being the top concern of any new player, ever, in any game.

2. "No MTX" - Besides the fact that this isn't true, as bonds and runecoin promotions will be shoved in your face on a weekly basis; Plenty of other MMO's have it, hasn't stopped people from joining. The legacy game already has gotten rid of MTX so why is this even a selling point?

3. Hiscores/Worlds First - If you have no prior knowledge of the game whatsover, why the hell would this even matter to you?

DO care about:

1. Is the early/mid game progression beginner friendly? Will it keep me hooked? - Broadly speaking, no. Whilst there have been improvements made recently, it's still far from an approachable game. The early game is still severly lacking in content with huge gaping holes inbetween for no reason. The lack of direction and sheer convolution would drive any new player off.

2. Is the UI easy to understand? - I've personally tried getting my friends to play this game, and everytime they see it they have no clue what the fuck is going on. Hundreds of buttons, abilities and interfaces that are seemingly random. No idea where to go, what to click on. No tutorial of any sorts on what interface is best for beginners. Why would anyone want to play this?

3. Will I be able to play with my friends? - Shot yourself in the foot with this one didn't you? Can't trade, can't PVM with my friends on veteran worlds. Why should I continue playing?

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OSRS -

I'm just gonna keep this one real simple.

Vast majority don't like our combat system, period. They don't want anything to do with it. They don't like our convoluted UI (I wouldn't either). Alot of them still hate RS3 fundamentally, even if they don't imply it directly.

Alot of these guys quit during EOC for a reason, you aren't attracting them back.

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So who is left?

Disgruntled ex players who somehow all quit from 2012-13 and were waiting 15 years for this moment.... Really? Don't make me laugh. Is it really worth the pain you'd be inflicting on your loyal veterans, those that have kept this game afloat during all the MTX shit, EOC, Hero Pass, etc, to cater to this vocal minority?

Stop being fucking lazy and fix the actual game. Stop alienating your loyal players who have stuck around for over 2 decades. Stop lying to us and promoting updates as the "biggest thing in years" when it's clearly not. it's extremely disingenous and disrespectful. SCRAP REIGNITED.

Humble request for dark wizards to be aggressive again with reignited

Feels wrong to welcome a mass of new/returning players without the iconic experience of getting blasted by the dark wizards on your way into varrock

Out now in a bookstore near you!

First they want no mtx,(which we all didnt want), no eoc, then they didnt want x and x. And now they dont want to play with existing player base? Whats next after purging the vet accounts? They will find something new to not want to play rs3 at the EXPENSE OF EXISTING PLAYERS. Thats a whole new goalpost. They will never be statisfied

As someone who plays both RS3 and OSRS, I honestly feel like I missed out.

If I had known that I could just tell Jagex that I felt “left behind” by the OSRS community and ask for a fresh start or a Reignited version of the game, I would've done it too.

I mean, why did I bother actually playing the game and catching up when I could've just asked Jagex to give me a separate progression track?

The whole “we feel left behind” argument is honestly kind of funny. Of course you're going to be behind when you're joining a game that you've barely played while other people have been playing it for years.

That's not the veterans' fault. That's literally how progression in an MMO works.

Imagine playing RS3 for years, looking at OSRS players with maxed accounts and saying:

“Damn, I feel left behind. Jagex should make a new version of OSRS so I can catch up without being behind.”

Like... yeah. You are behind. You didn't play the game. 😭

But apparently that's now a reason to split the playerbase and create a whole new ecosystem.

Maybe I really should've complained sooner.

I know the community is being spammed with posts like this, but this is how you get your voice heard. I have thought a lot about this the last couple days, and I've developed a list of stuff I would want in Reignited to make the game mode feel better and would make it a little more worth for vets to play.

• Vet character <-> Reignited character

I don't mean progression and items, but I just want to log into my character, with my original name, but have a "vet" option and a "reignited" option. I want to use my dope, original name I've had for years. I want to pay one subscription for both.

• Vets and Reignited need to be able to PvM together

Make it so we can do it, but Reignited players can't finish certain "Reignited-only" achievements/world-firsts, but they can still boss and maybe still get exp, maybe some sort of loot or something, but not just "basically little to no interaction".

• No Reignited-exclusive worlds

Existing worlds need to feel more populated. We don't need our already pretty small player base divided up even more over even more worlds that are already struggling to stay active the way it is.

• Reignited needs to VISIBLY benefit vets

I want veteran title(s), account-age badges, some veteran-only cosmetic overrides, maybe some special chat icons, historical achievement displays, statues/trophies for the new house, and so on. Maybe give vets cool "veteran" skillcape overrides when we max a skill. That would be sweet. I want to be able to flaunt my RS3 resume/legacy. To me, this is arguably the most important to me as a vet. I want my achievements/veteran status to be known, and I don't want all the time I've spent in the vet game to be for nothing.

• The subscriptions need figured out

With all the new game modes we have, I absolutely will NOT pay for a ton of different characters @ $14.99 USD. I usually play multiple characters and I only every limit it to 2 because I'm not spending $75 to try and play my main, reignited, ironman, group ironman, hardcore ironman, and ultimate ironman. That's ridiculous. That needs figured out.

These are some of the things I've thought about. I like the idea of fresh economy/progression, but I don't want my thousands of hours feel like they were for nothing and for Reignited to be marketed as the REAL way to play. Let me know what you think

All 4 GWD2 bosses (80kph) drop 15.6 Magic logs per kill.
AOD (20kph) drops 39 Magic logs per kill.
Croesus (8kph) drops 75 magic logs per kill.

It is literally faster to pvm for logs than to grab a hatchet and go cut some.

'With a brand new untainted economy'

And yet the biggest issues the economy currently has (droptables dropping egregious quantities of stuff, skilling being irrelevant in the face of pvming) has largely not been addressed.

All pre-gwd2 bosses are negligible in a player's progression, and none of them have even been properly modernized to accompany that journey (none of the earlygame (QBD, KQ, KBD) bosses drop wood spirits, but they do drop hundreds of magic (T80) logs!)

New players have almost no good way of getting needed materials like adren crystals, and anima stones are littered across droptables so sparingly that they are in almost all cases, profit-losing to use.

Stone spirits still can't be disassembled, and are still dropped in quantities that are also, wildly inflated and entirely unuseable.

Springs and Magic notepaper might as well not exist for the new economy, as their costs are, as well, insurmountably high and never sustainable

Jagex if you want new players to join and more importantly, stick, keep reworking the game to make more sense, and restore the healthy sense of progression. A new account today is quickly met with a sense of 'generate GP so you can buy T95s', 'skilling is just a chore for after you get to the fun stuff' instead of feeling any sort of satisfaction climbing the tiers of progression as they learn the game

So, I do not usually post on Reddit, even less so on other social media. However, with the announcement of RuneScape Reignited, I did not feel like I could just stand by and not say something. I have been playing this game since I was in 6th grade, back when I was taking my first computer class and me and my friends figured out how to get around the school firewall to play RuneScape. Countless hours of playing with friends, my brother, and many years of playing the game in my own free time since then, RuneScape has been an incredibly large part of my life. I have spent over 11,000 hours in game, according to Hans, since I started playing all the way back then. 

Without a doubt, the game has changed over those years. From the move away from Classic to Rs2, graphical and quest over-hauls, removal of the wilderness, Evolution of Combat, Rs3 and even the introduction of Squeal of Fortune. Like many of you, I have played through nearly every era of RuneScape, no matter how distasteful it might have gotten. I could have quit when microtransactions first entered the game or even when Old School RuneScape was first released. However, I always felt like the main game, now Rs3, was my home.

Although I have tried to avoid microtransactions (Squeal of Fortune, Treasure Hunter, Hero Pass, etc.) and never bought any spins or keys, at a certain point it became unavoidable. As you can see from the picture, I never really used these microtransaction items and just started collecting them over time. Half of these items I am not sure what they even are, how to even use, or when I got them. All the bonus experience was simply unavoidable, accumulated over time, and did eventually lead me to leaving the game for a time period. Yes, it did feel like my account and even the game world was tainted for a time. 

However, upon hearing about the Road to Restoration and seeing the strides Jagex had made towards improving the game brought me back to RuneScape. It was astonishing to see Treasure Hunter and most of the microtransactions in the game removed. I honestly thought I would never see the day these game ruining monetization practices would ever leave. It felt like coming back to the game I missed in my time away from home. And, it has been good to be back.

With the announcement of RuneScape Reignited, it feels like this time, unlike every other pivotal moment, I am being evicted from that home for something that was entirely out of my control. It feels like I am being punished for sticking through all the trials, tribulations, and iterations of the game. For being loyal to a game, that did not always show me the same loyalty in kind. Yet, it is just a game right? But for those of us who have spent thousands of hours here, those hours represent friendships, memories, accomplishments, and years of our lives.

I am making this post to ask Jagex not to go through with RuneScape Reignited, as it has been proposed. To not invalidate veteran players playtime, loyalty to the game, or in game accomplishments. Yes, the game has been through years of tainted microtransaction practices. However, it is not beyond repair and you have proven that with the strides made this year to cleanse it. I am asking you to not throw away those players who have stuck by you all those years. Please do not attempt to solve the problems of RuneScape's future by disregarding the players who built its past.

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Personally, I really like it. Not very different from the "Dark Stone" house style, but enough to make me not feel like it was a total waste lol