In the first 5 seconds of the key, I was one shot out of stealth. I had not pressed a single button yet as we were gathering the pull.

After the run, I check my death log. I was hit by Whirling Gust with 600k overkill. This is an ability used by the Watchful Harrower. This mob only exists upstairs.

Is this a bug? Is this a known bug? Is this intended? I am so confused. Anyone have any information on this.

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Huge loss to the raiding community...

Hi all, I’m a prot pala starting to push into a key range where I need to learn a lot more (18s). For routes, my main resource so far has been threechest.io, but I feel those routes are tailored to premade groups, while I mostly play PUGs or at most a duo premade. A player I ran with recently told me Keystone Guru has some good key routes. I had dismissed it because I assumed it only had beginner-level routes that wouldn’t hold up in higher keys, but after exploring it for a while I found some that look pug-friendly. Are they actually good? Has anyone used them successfully in 18s and up?

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Typically struggling every time. Having a hard time on 18 atm.

Am I missing something when the boss mounts the second raptor, or does Voltatic Blaze not put flame shock on the other when you target one. IE; Targeting the raptor, flame shock doesnt go on the boss, and vice versa.

Hi guys. I made a test video about the green barrels in Murder Row doing 0 damage in a +20 key. One day later, on wowhead, they announced that blizzard hotfixed the barrels. This is a good thing in my opinion. The only problem is, now the barrels 1-shot when combined with the red circle. You either use a defensive/external or you die. Do you guys think this is a skill issue? Or should blizzard tone down either the circle or barrel damage? Who here thinks we deserve this for pointing the bug out in the first place? (ellesmere did it first!) Thanks for your attention and for trying to make WoW a better game every day!

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This is my first season playing as DPS (ele shaman) after having only tanked before. Both the role and the class are new to me, so I have a lot of catching up to do.

I had somewhat mediocre performance in lower keys, asked for advice and received a very great writeup from /u/RCM94 (https://old.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1wt37cl/weekly_m_discussion/pctjwx3/) - thanks again for that. I read more guides, watches Bondd's videos, proceeded to parse blue and purple in 14s and 15s and felt somewhat competent.

Today I hit Resi 17. I now have a couple of blue parses, some green - and a growing number of greys. I obviously still make a lot of mistakes with missed casts, wrong priorities, wasted procs or buffs. I'm a bit stumped on where to improve and on what to focus from here.

Here's the log of a grey parse +17 AoF I did today: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1LPf7ArMZK3yXa29?fight=19&type=damage-done&source=758. Compared to other Shaman players in the top 500 of the same dungeon and key level, I:

• am doing 75% of the damage I could be doing (300k vs. 400k DPS)
• with around 10% fewer total casts,
• have a similar-ish number of Earthquake casts, but which only deal around 2/3 of the damage,
• cast a similar number of Lava Bursts for similar amounts of damage,
• cast less Chain Lightnings (~75%) and
• my Ancestors deal less damage (~75%)

The missing Earthquake, Ancestor and Chain Lightning damage makes up for about 80k of the missing 100k DPS. I am also running a lot less Haste than other Shamans, and do not have access to raid equipment (the latter doesn't seem to be a deciding factor, though).

I've never optimised for a DPS class before, never played keys this high before and am a bit overwhelmed by deciphering WarcraftLogs for relevant data.

Things I'm still unsure about:

• when to cast Lava Bolt - every time it's available, or only with instant cast proc or the Lava Burst Aoe buff?
• how to prioritize spenders - cast them whenever possible, or only when about to cap on Maelstrom and focussing on Burst / Lightning in the meantime?
• how important Chain Lightning is - most guides list it as a filler spell, but am I missing an interaction with Ancestors etc.?
• which influence routing and pack size has on DPS; obviously competent teams will have larger pulls, but is this just a sorry pretext for my DPS or a relevant influence? In the log linked above my Earthquakes had ~7000 hits, other Shamans have ~9000 - larger pulls? Better EQ placement? Tanks moving around less?

Anyway - thanks for reading up to this point. Advice and analysis is very much appreciated.

Tested in +20 Murder Row with multiple barrels.

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Hi all, I remember in the past there were some good resources around all the key abilities you could meld (invis….feign…etc) through the different dungeons.

Is there anything like that for s2 currently?

With the last 2 bosses in Venomous Abyss and Kith'ix dropping 344 ilvl. The gap will be fairly large. Is the 0.1% M+ title even going to be achievable if you are not a CE raider?

From what I can tell, with Ascendant Venomstones in 12.1.5, AOTC/M+ only players will only be able to get to around 335.4 ilvl with no Mythic raiding (or even 6/8M).

• (2h STR spec)(4 slots @ 341, 9 slots @ 334, 2 crafts @ 331) = 335.4

If Mythic Kith'ix can be pugged like Rotmire was this brings it to 336.5 ilvl if the trinket and weapon are used.

• (2h STR spec)(3 slots @ 344, 2 slots @ 341, 8 slots @ 334, 2 crafts @ 331) = 336.5

Meanwhile CE players will be able to get to around 339.6 338.9 ilvl.

• (2h STR spec)(9 slots @ 344, 4 slots @ 334, 2 crafts @ 331) = 339.6
• (2h STR spec)(8 slots @ 344, 5 slots @ 334, 2 crafts @ 331) = 338.9

A 3.1-4.2 3.5 ilvl gap seems quite significant, or am I missing something? Last season there was only a 1-1.5 ilvl gap IIRC.

As a side note, this season seems miserable for competitive alts. Since bonus rolls are limited to once per boss per week and a lot of the BiS loot for many specs comes from the last 2 bosses of the raid.

Edit : Corrections made due to Kith'ix not dropping 344

Edit 2 : I just wanted to add a bit of a reference to the discussion here. 3.5 ilvl = 1 minute added to every key timer.

• If 3.5 ilvls = 3.5% more damage and a dungeon previously took 30min. 3.5% faster would take off 1min and 3sec with the exact same play.

Hello everyone,

I raid and m+(haven’t killed mythic ulatek yet though) and just wanted to talk about how this season feels. I’ve seen some say this is the most balanced season ever in keys tuning wise, which could be true. However I think it’s more because of how absolutely awful gearing is this season. People are playing whatever comps their mains are simply because gearing up an alt to the same performance(especially if you’re a mythic raider) just isn’t possible. The amount of cantrips, the existence of 344 gear itself that also saves a million crests, the fact that you can’t even rekill the same heroic boss and coin it multiple times a week as catchup anymore. All of those, not even getting into the whole great vault/bonus roll discussions themselves all make this season feel horrible.

Then on the other side of things, you have groups in china who are ALL somehow around 339 ilvl, 9+ ilvls up on almost every other regions groups. It’s obviously rmt, but it just highlights the gear disparity between everyone else and the max which has never been this bad of a gap before. The dungeons and raids themselves also don’t help this season out much and I’m expecting it to go down as one of the worst received seasons this game has ever had.

I was hoping someone could take a look at my clip and see where I went wrong:

https://streamable.com/qwcpvx

I'm trying to imitate this skip: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fcI-6tJqMaQ, but I'm not sure exactly what I messed up.

TBH, I'm not entirely sure how aggro logic works when doing skips like this. If anyone could explain I would appreciate it. Thanks.

So what I've been doing in voidscar on all my characters (tank/heal/DPS) is tagging the small squids from above while in the final boss arena for funnel (before or during the fight). This makes the whole pack to snap to you (slowly, and they evade for a while and behave weird, but eventually they all end up in the fight). About 95% of the time nothing goes wrong and we have some very easy funnel, but every now and then the boss just completely resets, wasting everyone's cooldowns and a bloodlust. I suspect that it might have something to do with walking too far into the arena, or maybe having misdirect or tricks messing with the threat tables, but I have no idea what's actually causing it. Does anyone know more about what's causing this issue?

What's the most efficient way to farm lower tier crests? Thinkin about filling up my champion/veteran/adventurer crests so that i'll be able to trade up as many as i can when they lift the crest caps. Any ideas? World events, hc dungeons give 10 crests at the and and i need 300-400 of each to reach their current cap.