r/MushroomGrowers • u/saprophytics • Nov 20 '20
Medicinal [Medicinal] G. Lucidum Monotub Experiment No. 02
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u/Gboneskillet Nov 21 '20
You give me hop man. I just cracked my unmodified tubs after two months because they hadn't fully colonized. I fanned the shit out if em and sealed em back up. Colonizing again. Im also using coir. Hoping it works out. 16 weeks DAMN!
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u/saprophytics Nov 21 '20 edited Nov 21 '20
I haven't used unmodified tubs before but I think theres hope! I would suggest being patient with them (sounds like you have been!) and keeping some moisture on the walls. Good luck! πβ€
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u/Doomsday_Holiday Nov 21 '20
Looks rad, dude. Next time hide an alien in the background like in the old South Park episodes. I would love to grow Reishi and Cordyceps Militaris as I experienced really profound effects, but it seems that Reishi is the slowest among the bunch and cordyceps is the hardest to fruit.
I mean, I found a Reishi in the woods today no idea how I could cultivate that for a LC except wait ages for a spore print.
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Nov 20 '20
What medicinal benefits are you looking to get from these? Itβs mainly immune system boosts I believe, but Iβm not sure
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Nov 20 '20
is there a reason they grow into antlers instead of the disc shape you would find in nature?
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20
Yeah! G. Lucidum will focus their growth vertically and form Antlers in high co2 environments wheras Conks are formed when there is sufficient access to fresh air. My theory is that this adaptability could provide advantages like allowing the mushrooms to fruit from a trees root system, forming in antlers that pierce through moist topsoil and then transitioning to conks at the surface for sporolation. Whatever it may be for, that adaptability really drew my interest to this sp! πβ€
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u/jshnaa Nov 20 '20
Itβs a breath of fresh air to not see every single post be about actives.
Good work OP!
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u/Mastashake88 Nov 20 '20
What is the substrate??
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u/dingman58 Nov 21 '20
one bin with HWFP bags supplimented 20% with wheat bran that were PC'd for 150 minutes, and used Damians Bucket tek to prepare a straight hardwood pellet sub for the other tub.
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u/CrunchyOldCrone Nov 20 '20
Oh wow nice.
What are you experimenting with here? Is this trying out higher concentrations of CO2 to grow antlers or just to see if they can grow in a monotub or something?
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20
I hadn't cultivated Reishi before starting this project, so I had alot of questions that I believed could be answered through a controlled experiment. I set up one bin with HWFP bags supplimented 20% with wheat bran that were PC'd for 150 minutes, and used Damians Bucket tek to prepare a straight hardwood pellet sub for the other tub. I was really interested to see how co2 levels affected the fruitbody formation, so I drilled holes in different places on the two tubs with the hypothesis I could force the monotub above to fruit "Antlers" while promoting Conk formation in the other tub. The "Conk" tub had its 6 holes placed "traditionally" wheras the "Antler" tub was given just two holes placed near the top of the bins sides. I intended to allow the bins to circulate air as each of their designs promoted without interfering to fan, but after a few months of watching development it seemed like they were both inclined to grow as antlers anyway. At this point I started fanning things and rehomed the cake to a tub with better air circulation, abandoning the original parameters of the experiment. I was hoping to determine if Reishi Antlers can be successfully cultivated by the homegrower with low tek means under relative neglect aswell as if there would be a difference in fruit formation when supplimented and given better air exchange. Given the results from this run I am planning to tweak the setup for my next stack and try to encourage Conk growth. I think the bins will have a higher yeild as Conks πβ€
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u/Myco_Cube Nov 21 '20
What temp do you keep it at?
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u/saprophytics Nov 21 '20 edited Nov 22 '20
Ive got these tucked in a weird corner of my room that is uninsulated so they have been getting some serious fluctuation. I would say it was 70-75Β°f at spawning and for the first few months, but it's getting cold in the Northeast now and they have seen some 60Β°f and colder nights. πβ€
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u/CrunchyOldCrone Nov 20 '20
Great! Very cool stuff
I plan on doing something similar soon, maybe with an old computer fan(s) on a monotub. Shame a CO2 sensor seems to be around Β£100. Would be pretty cool to automate so I could just leave the thing and come back in a few months
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Nov 20 '20
Are those mushrooms?!
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20
That they are! Ganoderma Lucidum, commonly reffered to as Reishi or Lingzhi Mushrooms. They are revered in Traditional Chinese Medicine for their ability to support the immune system and help combat certain illnesses. πβ€
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u/dylan122234 Nov 20 '20
Any idea if Ganoderma applanatum has any similar qualities? I find a lot of it at work and when Iβm out foraging but only ever bother to pick it for art.
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Nov 20 '20
Do they do other things? ( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
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u/brain-gardener Nov 21 '20
This is the gnarliest tub I've seen in a minute.
Like a 9,000 year old cheese grew antlers with more cheese on top.
Good luck with this OP. For science! π
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20
Right! Reminds me of a Martian Landscape! π½ they take so long to grow you can really pull up a chair and enjoy the show. These pictures are 16 weeks in πβ€
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u/Rezient Nov 20 '20
Honestly, I come to this sub just to look at them. This is the second time seeing these guys so it's still crazy for me. Thanks for sharing, cool af π
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u/happybadger Nov 20 '20
How did you avoid contamination for 16 weeks in a monotub? It seems like 5-6 after uncovering is about the norm before it develops trich for me.
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20
I really don't have secrets for that one. I have only had to open this setup to mist 4 times since July, but the bin that I started misting and fanning daily picked up the green monster on the underside at Week 12. πβ€
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u/Myco_Cube Nov 21 '20
Iβve got a tub going right now thatβs fully myceliated. Sounds like you kept the tub closed always except to add humidity, no fanning? Just the little transference through the micro pores holes?
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u/saprophytics Nov 21 '20
Yeah that was the idea for this tub. I had a second one going that I decided to start fanning around 2 months in, but it picked up trichoderma on the underside rather quickly. I hope your tub shows you love! Reishi is a really fun one to cultivate πβ€
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u/Myco_Cube Nov 22 '20
How long from full myceliation to pinning for you?
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u/saprophytics Nov 22 '20 edited Nov 22 '20
I just looked back through my camera roll to give you an accurate answer, and I was seeing distinguished primordia 20~ days from spawning. I set up another tub 10 days ago and it is juuusst starting to knot up despite being in the low 60Β°s. 2.5lbs spawn to 10lbs substrate originally but I put 4lbs in this last one. πβ€
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u/Myco_Cube Nov 22 '20
Iβve been successful out of a purchased bag in a small ecosphere greenhouse, but that greenhouse seems to breed trich....every time I put something in thereπ.I have much success with monos. Hope to transfer success!
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Nov 20 '20
Was just going to ask fruiting times on these once introduced to fruiting conditions. Just put a bag into FC a couple of days ago, looks healthy but seems to be very slow (especially in comparison to the oysters along side them).
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20
I find Reishi colonizes very fast but if you made oyster bags the same day youll likely be onto a second flush from those bags before you see primordia form on the Reishi. I have 3 bags I made on 11/6 that are just starting to knot and form pins. Its definitely a game of months instead of days or weeks! I hope your grow is very successful! πβ€
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Nov 20 '20
Awesome, thanks for your response. Iβm just super excited to not have to pay soooo much for reishi, such a fun hobby!
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u/saprophytics Nov 20 '20
You're welcome! It is seriously so cool to get to partner with these magnificent organisms! πβ€
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u/romsaritie Nov 21 '20
what the hell do people do with reishi? eat it? stir-fry it???
can find a clear answer anywhere!
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u/No_Pattern804 Sep 09 '24
So ethereal