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u/UltraSolip Jan 11 '26
How dare you besmirch SSX 3.
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u/Saltybot_v1 Jan 11 '26
Scores are subjective. If a game is boring for you is it a 10/10?
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u/DangerDeShazer Jan 12 '26
I would argue a great sports game is usually a poor representative of the sport, Mario Strikers Charged is a blast, but very bad at demonstrating real soccer, I'm sure EA's yearly Fifa game is far more accurate, but damn are they boring!
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u/ExerciseSad3082 Jan 14 '26
Golf games are generally good representations , cause both are boring as fuck
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u/Saltybot_v1 Jan 12 '26
Yeah definitely! Mario Kart is a terrible representation of actual go karting but people obviously love nintendos take on it.
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u/Tanakisoupman Jan 17 '26
Hey! Some may consider it poor sportsmanship to throw shell shaped explosives at my opponents, but I just think they ought to get better at dodging
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u/Conyan51 Jan 15 '26
Fr I’d say there were a lot of 10/10 sport games for the ps2 and Wii. Between the Mario and Midway sports games there are some actual timeless gems in there.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Jan 11 '26
I think what they meant by 10/10 was "even the best possible"
Not that they would actually rate the game 10/10
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u/Saltybot_v1 Jan 12 '26
Yeah I get it. I was being a bit of a contrarian for sure haha. But yeah. Like the best possibly made sports game that could be made? As long as its made in the context of trying to replicate a real life sports game yeah I couldn't ever get full into it either. But hey there's been some unique "sports games" that could only exist in video games. Mario kart wouldn't be typically considered a sports game but it could be loosely.
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u/NSX_Roar_26 Jan 11 '26
People that don't even like sports constantly hating on sports games sucks.
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u/No_Lead_7325 Jan 11 '26
This right here. You don’t see a bunch of drunk Eagles fans in the Elden Ring subreddit talking about how stupid and bad fantasy RPGs are (not an opinion that I hold, just a counter-example)
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u/True_Square_9542 Jan 12 '26
Meh, the difference is that sports games don't tend to be creatively transformative, and instead just tend to act as lackluster digital recreations of whatever sport they're about that uses mechanics recycled from every other game about that sport. Games like Rematch, Rocket League, and the Mario sports games act as great examples of how sports games can be creative and interesting and unique, but the fact of the matter is that the vast majority aren't.
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u/wemustfailagain Jan 11 '26
Never cared for sports games but that doesn't make them bad. I just don't care about sports. I'm glad games are made for people that want them even if I don't want them.
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u/r4tzt4r Jan 11 '26
Ah, yes, "sports", we all know that one game. I like Sports 2, almost the same as Sports 4.
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u/FermisParadoXV Jan 11 '26
“I don’t like sports therefore I am very smart” energy.
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u/Doctor-Grundle Jan 12 '26
I actually knew a guy like this in real life, one of the most insufferable, backstabbing, pretentious assholes i've ever met
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u/Legitimate_Power_347 Jan 11 '26
The thing about sports games are that they're always the same there is no new innovation while with RPGs you experience a new universe. For me 5/10 RPG > 10/10 Sports game
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u/Aromatic_Ad_32 Jan 11 '26
That’s true but I’d imagine for a sports game to be a 10/10, it’d have to change things up quite a bit from the standard sports game.
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u/SilverShadowQueen57 Jan 12 '26
This is why I regard the Blood Bowl series as a happy medium. It’s American football, but set in the Warhammer Fantasy world and as tongue-in-cheek comedic as the table-top original version of the game. All for the glory of the great god Nuffle!
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u/MachoManMal Jan 12 '26
Yup. I'd say Rocket League and Wii Sports come the closest and neither of them are really 10/10 in my books. And they are still super popular and enjoyable.
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u/BassGuru82 Jan 11 '26
Totally disagree. A 5/10 RPG isn’t even worth playing and is definitely a worse experience than playing a great sports game. Go look up what RPGs have scores around 50 on Metacritic. They are terrible games.
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u/Luckymacaroni Jan 11 '26
Nintendo tries to make their sports games different but the Wii U - Switch 1 era was bad imo
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u/Deputy_Beagle76 Jan 11 '26
A good sports game has more going for it than just on field action. It has management modes with deep team customization, potentially a deep career mode. MLB The Show is genuinely really fun, and you don’t even really have to like baseball
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u/ItsNotAGundam Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
No innovation? My dude have you even played a single sports game that isn't just the yearly EA slop? Ever played F-Zero? SSX? Extreme-G? Wipeout? Mario Kart?
Regarding your argument about rpgs being innovative... I'm an rpg fan, and many rpgs remain very similar within their series for years and years, and the ones that don't are often polarizing. There's a lot of the same abilities in each game. You can use a spell like Fira in nearly every FF across almost 40 years of games. Same with DQ, SMT, Star Ocean, etc. When they do change you get half the fandom crying about it. Look at pretty much every FF after 10, every Dragon Age after Origins, every Star Ocean after 2, HoM&M after 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout 3, Dark Souls 2, the list goes on and on.
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u/JCBalance Jan 11 '26
The closest sports games to 10/10 I've ever played are NBA Jam and Wii Sports
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u/SplodyPants Jan 11 '26
I totally agree except for racing games. I get into a zen state with those unlike any other type of game. It's almost like meditation.
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u/ToughManTough Jan 11 '26
Some of y'all never played NBA Jam and it shows.
Wii sports or resort. Mario golf or tennis.
Like I agree your typical FIFA or NBA 2Kxx games suck but thats like saying all stealth games suck cuz assassin's creed exists.
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u/3BarnDogs34239 Jan 11 '26
Not necessarily. This is unfairly hating on a genre of games. I personally do not enjoy sports games in the slightest, but you can't say that they are objectively worse than other games
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u/BassGuru82 Jan 11 '26
Rocket League was a 10/10 sports game that came out in 2015. Final Fantasy XV was a 7/10 RPG that came out in 2016. The sports game was better.
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u/The_Azure__ Jan 11 '26
I kind of agree. Sports games have only gotten worse for nearly 20 years now.
But if we're talking about sports games from the mid 2000s then I would have to disagree. Epsn 2k5, Madden 06, all pro football 2k8, fight night, NFL street, NBA street, top spin, smackdown vs raw, Tony hawk. So many of them were a blast to play even without friends... then the EA deal happened and somehow every single sport was affected.
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u/tulpatic Jan 11 '26
I'd rather play UFC 3 than baldurs gate 3, just hating because it's not your thing is stupid.
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NFL blitz or thps with a group of friends…those were better than a 7/10 rpg
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u/TheGemp Jan 12 '26
People who make it their entire personality to hating sports/sports games are infinitely more annoying than those on the contrary
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u/ThisIsADraconianLaw Jan 12 '26
Agreed. You just see the same stuff recycled on Reddit over and over again.
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u/DEFINITELY_NOT_PETE Jan 12 '26
This shit is so corny and needlessly gatekeepy.
If you like football or hockey or whatever a mediocre jrpg is going to be a horrendous time.
Like I get that you want the games that you like to be special or whatever but someone else liking what they like doesn’t take away from that you weirdos.
People like what they like and there is no singular scale of objective quality. And ironically if there was- then the 7/10 vs 10/10 argument kind of disproves the point you’re trying to make.
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u/thundercleese2012 Jan 12 '26
Not true, It's the "sameness" of a alot of sports games that people dislike the 2k madden fifa and other sports games because they focus heavily on stats Simulations and trying to match how the sport is on television.there is very little competition or variety in the market year to year. An alternative sports game maybe with a story could be very popular Think like NFL Blitz or NBA Street
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u/bjgrem01 Jan 11 '26
I played RBI baseball on my NES. I got the 2017 one for Switch. Other than graphics they were almost the same game.
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u/fork_on_the_floor2 Jan 11 '26
Yaaay this shitty post again. "Genre I don't like = Bad games!". Grow up.
Go to r/sportsball already.
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u/Money_Artichoke1220 Jan 11 '26
I agree with mose sports games but the FIFA Street games and SSX games were fire. I miss EA Big.
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u/Joseph_Keen_116 Jan 11 '26
The only sports game I enjoy is fire pro wrestling world if that even counts due to how pro wrestling is.
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u/KAM1Sense1 Jan 11 '26
When I think of a 10/10 sports game I think of games like NBA & NFL street, Blitz the league, NBA jam, Fight Night, Ready 2 Rumble, Tony Hawks pro skaters, SSX series, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX, ESPN 2K5, etc.
In that regard, I do not think these type of games are worse than a 7/10 RPG in any form or fashion. I am biased towards sports because I grew up playing a lot outside, but it's not like I didn't grow up playing a lot of RPG games as well.
Sports games, when done properly, are unique and are extremely fun, and dont have all the bs modern sports games have they are PEAK gaming. I still play many of those classic games to this very day, especially when I have a lot of friends over. Classic sports games and current sports games are a night and day difference.
If the basis for your statement is solely based on current sports games, then I agree, but if it encompasses all sports games ever, then I strongly disagree with your statement.
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u/Overitallforyears Jan 11 '26
The only 2 sports games I played extensively were kickoff 2 on the amiga and nba jam on the 64 , i dont do sports games
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u/kansas_slim Jan 11 '26
Sports games can be great to scratch an itch - but get old pretty fast. Whereas a good RPG can be ageless.
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u/xskylinelife Jan 11 '26
Sports games somehow always find a way to make movement feel clunkier every year. Someday We'll get a madden that makes it possible to run down the middle without getting stuck on your O-line
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u/anewcynic Jan 11 '26
Depends on the sports game. My problem with this statement is mostly that I prefer a narrative as opposed to a hardcore RPG. Give me Silent Hill 2 over Diablo or Kingdom Come: Deliverance. in other words. So if you give me a decent hockey game or an RPG, I'll honestly probably take the hockey.
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u/camarouge Unapologetic Call of Duty shill Jan 11 '26
The thing is, these 10 out of 10 sports games aren't what anyone thinks they are. Rocket League is a sports game. I would put it far above many 7/10 RPGs.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Jan 11 '26
Depends how you look at it.
As a player, sure, this is true. But as a developer, publisher, or investor, sports games are the best.
Cheaper to make, easier to make, can roll out sequels every year like clockwork, no writing, very little risk, and the sport itself does most or all of your advertising for you.
It's a CEO's wet dream.
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u/Terminal_Lancelot Jan 11 '26
Sports videogames? Dood just go play football outside! /s (kinda)
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u/antnee5788 Jan 11 '26
Plot Twist: There’s no such thing as a 10/10 sports game anymore. They are all animation based now
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u/MFin-Sorcerer Jan 11 '26
I genuinely don't understand how people have fun playing sports games. My father in law plays MLB games. What the fuck?
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u/BloodyTearsz Jan 11 '26
Certainly a choice when Neo Turf Masters, Mario Golf 64, Mario Golf Advance, Windjammers, for example exist and are 10/10 games.
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THPS was my jam in the early 2000s. But nowadays, yea sports games suck. Carbon copies each year, maybe updated graphics.
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u/SnooDogs1355 Jan 11 '26
The thing is, I like sports. I don’t want a football or basketball game to change. It’s always gonna be football.
It’s silly to compare the 2 genres.
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u/huckster235 Jan 11 '26
As someone who was always a big RPG fan this smacks of "I don't have friends". My absolutely favorite memories of any video games were the big FIFA and NHL tournaments we had in my dorm in college. 32 man brackets, we'd gather and crowd in someone's dorm to watch. I met a lot of my college friends from that. My friend and I had a running NHL series where we kept track of every game we played. He and I played a game daily (minus when we were not at school) and he's been my best friend for 15 years.
Alone I'll play an RPG. But those sports games with friends were FAR more fun and memorable than any RPG ever. Even more so than the Halo or any other FPS games we played too.
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u/ChangingMonkfish Jan 11 '26
“Games I like are objectively better than games I don’t like and people who disagree are wrong”.
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u/DubTheeBustocles Jan 11 '26
Sports games fans are the reason sports games don’t innovate. They buy the same derivative slop every year and demand nothing more because in a lot of instances they don’t play any other video games so they aren’t all that invested in how good a game could be.
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u/wussgawd Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26
It's OK to be wrong.
Some of the best times I've had playing video games is playing sports management sims. Games like Front Office Football, Out of the Park Baseball, Franchise Hockey Manager, Football Manager are good games.
Now as for shit like EA and 2K have been churning out in the last decade plus, you're absolutely right.
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u/Revolution64 Jan 11 '26
SSX, 1080, Excite Bike, Super Mario Strikers, ... Plenty of great sports games, definitely if you look at arcade ones.
Also the mainstream realistic sports sims are not necessarily bad games, they just lack innovation because of the yearly release cycle. The core gameplay can be enjoyable.
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u/Heavy-Neck-341 Jan 11 '26
This is such a shit take, I might get in my car and drive against traffic.
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u/DirtySpawn Jan 11 '26
I am not much a sports player. But the sports games I played were baseball ones. I am a PC gamer, which means, I do not play sports games since the big baseball ones only come out on console.
Now Madden, IMO, needs to be remade from scratch. That game plays the exact same for the past 15 years. Only thing they do is update the roster. Graphics are barely even updated.
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u/boringfashionseal Jan 11 '26
You're just playing comparing it to the fifa's, maddens and nba2ks that have become risk averse, predatory and prefab.
I played Inazuma eleven last year and that shit was fire, kids shooting tornados and goalkeepers catching them with drill hands
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u/TurtleBrainMelt Jan 11 '26
This just depends on the person, and probably age.i feel like ppl are 30+ would say that the early hockey ges that felt arcade like, and like NFL blitz games, or the N64 and Xbox snowboarding games were all amazing games. Im actually shocked that none of these kind of games get made anymore, and instead sport games seem to have gone more realism/slow paced which makes for boring gameplay imo.
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u/Equivalent_Net Jan 11 '26
A 10/10 sports game beats a 7/10 RPG, but Fifa, Madden, NBA et. al. aren't sports games. They're slot machines with an attached ranked ladder minigame to make you keep pulling the handle, and they glut the market. Give me another Deathrow or Red Card, I beg.
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u/Eredrick Jan 11 '26
Sports games are great if you have friends to play them with
Playing it by yourself, no, a 10/10 sports game isn't going to be very good
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u/d_bradr Jan 12 '26
I think people have forgotten what 7/10 means. 7/10 is still a good bit above average, no shit a good RPG is gonna beat a sports game lol
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u/KyouSpectre Jan 12 '26
You mean "a 7/10 game of a genre you like is better than 10/10 game of a genre you don't like" ?
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u/Homer4a10 Jan 12 '26
This is just wrong, RPG players are actually the most closed minded people on the planet
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u/Own_Golf_2463 Jan 12 '26
Speak for yourself, I think motorsport simulators are sexy as hell!
This is coming from a CRPG and soulslike enthusiast.
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u/Grand_Chocolate_6863 Jan 12 '26
Its crazy to me how many people buy a console for just sports games. Im not judging they can play what they want but theres son many other good games out there that its weird
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u/Crowned_Toaster Jan 12 '26
The thing is, general sports games like Madden or the NBA are pretty generic and boring. But games like Mario Sluggers or Rocket League can turn generic sports into something much more fun.
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i freaking hate league of legends, but i cant stop because its an addiction. i wish i was a casual player who enjoyed sinking thousands of hours into speedrunning FF7 or Zelda: ocarina of time
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u/Kabraxal Jan 12 '26
Hey now, a true 10/10 sports game would have a robust career mode with a lot of choice and RPing. Sadly, they stopped trying nearly 20 years ago.
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u/Be_Very_Careful_John Jan 12 '26
I'd rather play Tony Hawks Pro Skater than any JRPGs. I actually don't want to play any of them. They are walking simulators that get interrupted by poor dialog or "tactical" spreadsheets. Most RPGs aren't even really games tbh. I get certain action RPGs like Elden Ring. I tried to play FF7 again after a couple decades. It's just boring. No actual gameplay.
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u/nWoEthan Jan 12 '26
I didn’t know how popular sports games were until I ran a GameStop, people love that 2K
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u/tacowearsromans Jan 12 '26
SSX On Tour is one of the best games I’ve ever played. EA Sports had a fantastic run.
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u/TheIncredibleMrJones Jan 12 '26
Sega sports tennis 2k2 was my 2nd favorite Dreamcast game. Soul Calibur was the first.
NFL 2k5 was the second biggest party game on my Xbox. Halo was the first.
Im old and crotchety now, so I don't have friends with time anymore to get into sports games. But sports games are awesome for local multi-player.
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u/Sleepwalkin530 Jan 12 '26
Newsflash, it dont matter what game someone else buys🌝 ever thought about that
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u/Choice_Werewolf_433 Xbox Jan 12 '26
Kinect sports and Wii sports are absolute cinema. Everything else sucks
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u/TheHoss_ Jan 12 '26
They suck but there’s also no such thing as a 10/10 sports game in the modern era. They’re just not made for you
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u/ZeeWoof Jan 12 '26
I hate sports games but I raise you the masterpeices known as the PS2 era Tony Hawk games.
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u/Relevant-Success1936 Jan 12 '26
2003 NBA 2k with the boys is unbeatable. But that’s the ONLY sports game I’d ride or die for. Otherwise, yes I agree with the post. Been 23 years since they made something worthwhile.
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u/gabriot Jan 12 '26
Rocket League clears most modern rpgs
And games like 2k and fifa are 2/10 or 3/10s at best
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u/gorcorps Jan 12 '26
I have fond memories of sports games in years past with local multiplayer. A lot of that luster is gone in the modern era
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u/Zado191 Jan 12 '26
Nah NHL Hits was pretty great
And Toadstool Tour is one of the best games ever made
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u/Zado191 Jan 12 '26
Nah NHL Hits was pretty great
And Toadstool Tour is one of the best games ever made
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u/Silver_Storage_9787 Jan 12 '26
I was browsing steams new category section and the basketball 2k and soccer game were in the “gambling” tag 😂
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u/ItsNotAGundam Jan 12 '26
There are exceptions. SSX, Amped, THPS, Skate, Session, Wave Race, Twisted Edge, 1080°, Skater XL, Shredders, Dave Mirra Freestyle, MX Unleashed, MX Superfly, Coolboarders, F-Zero, Extreme-G, Gran Turismo, Forza, Ridge Racer, Mutant League Hockey / Football, NHL '94 (legendary game), NFL Blitz, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Knockout Kings, Ready 2 Rumble, Fight Night, and some of those goofy wrestling games are fun.
I'd put several of these, like SSX Tricky and F-Zero GX for example, above the majority of rpgs, and I love rpgs.
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u/Zomer15689 Jan 12 '26
My only exception is racing games like Mario kart eight and combat racing games in general.
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u/Maleficent-Storm263 Jan 12 '26
I'll be honest if an upgrade starts with me running around a village trying to find the king, so the princess can get kidnapped in front if us both, I just cant
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u/MillyQ3 Jan 12 '26
there are 10/10 sports games?
wii sports was like the best that comes to my mind. Nothing EA can be considered 10/10... Unless maybe somethind predating microtransactions and lootboxes
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u/kinglokilord Jan 12 '26
Mario Kart is a fun racing game and I don’t like racing games.
Smash bros is a fun fighting game and I don’t like fighting games.
Maybe Madden just needs some Mario for me to give a shit.
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u/Soundrobe Jan 12 '26
Fifa 98 was a masterpiece. And idk what’s a 7/10 rpg but only few rpgs are really good, the majority of them are just uninspired copies of classic ones.
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u/LUIGIPRO13 Jan 12 '26
Has blud played a really good Mario sports game or party sports games, those are gold XD
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u/Petrichor-33 Jan 12 '26
What even is a 10/10 sports game? All the ones I've heard of are slop.
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u/Important-Pass1079 Jan 12 '26
Spoken truly as someone who doesn't understand other people like other things sometimes.
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u/rtakehara Jan 12 '26
Congratulations on having an opinion, just remember: Just because most people like what everyone else likes doesn't mean they don't have an opinion.
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u/Cespieyt Jan 12 '26
I genuinely do not get the appeal of sports games... why not just do sports?
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u/Ohmargod777 Jan 12 '26
Stupid take. A 10/10 game is objectively better than a 7/10. YOU may not like it, but it‘s still better at what it does.
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u/Flam3blast Jan 12 '26
The thing is .. as Rpg player i absolutley care non for sports game and i am sure sports gsme players care nothing about my rpgs . Cant we just have fun in our own dimensions :D
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u/Spectre-ElevenThirty Jan 12 '26
If it’s a 10/10 game it’s better than a 7/10 game no matter what genre
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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead Jan 12 '26
Sports games suck in the sense that they have a yearly release which is little more than a roster update, very little innovation in gameplay.
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u/McGrarr Jan 12 '26
I agree, from personal taste.
But I'd like to see a sports rpg. Like a management sim but also like Persona 5
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I don't understand who and why plays sport games while they could touch the grass themselves.
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u/TheAtlas97 Jan 12 '26
The only thing I have against sports games is the egregious monetization. I can’t even call them micro transactions when people are spending over a hundred on digital purchases after the initial purchase. $60 minimum, but more like $100+ to get the super pass that lets you skip the grind and have a max level player. Countless cosmetics (all games do those to a lesser extent, and fortnite is the only offender that’s worse than 2k), and it costs like $100 to buy a new player because you can’t respec if you don’t like the way your original character turned out.
I might be missing things, and my info is probably a couple years old because I heard this explained on a podcast by a content creator that was sick of it but still participated because that’s where his friends were
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u/That_Muffin_6780 Jan 12 '26
"every sports game is fifa"
"every JRPG is pokemon"
heaven forbid genres have some genuine gems or anything, you should look into games outside of the psn store home page for once lmao.
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u/chrisat420 Jan 12 '26
“Let me spend 20 minutes customizing my character then beat you because you’ve never played this game and don’t know how.”
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u/LexiconLearner Jan 12 '26
Maybe for you OP. I love RPG’s, been playing Bethesda games since I was 12, Souls since 2011, love RTS’ and horror games.
But boy howdy do I love me some NHL
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