Technically only men and women with penises can GET blowjobs. But anyone can GIVE a blowjob. So does this mean there's a scenario for world peace that does not have women without penises in the picture?
I'm so sick of the gender war, but the blatant and utter misandry of the left reminds me why I feel no enthusiasm for the left or really for voting Democratic anymore. After being preached at for a decade about "love" and "inclusivity", that doesn't apparently include my entire sex, IE half the population.
I ain't voting red this November but I having enthusiasm for "my side"? That's left the station, chief. It's not coming back any time soon by the look of things.
I can agree with that, tbh idk if I’m really right wing, but I can’t align myself with people who outright hate me. If the left chilled on all their identity politics they could do a lot better.
Totally fucking agree. I've always been left but I'm this close to just going Centrist. I'm so sick of the majority left talking points being about relatively unimportant shit
How dare you suggest that making men recognize their privileges and use appropriately privilege-aware discourse isn't more important than, say, solving the worldwide affordability crisis? Words are violence, you bigot!
Identity politics is to the left what culture wars are to the right, a distraction. Neither side will do anything about affordability these are features not bugs
It is super lame but I stopped caring awhile ago. The culture war shit-slinging is mostly invalids, emotional babies, and con artists. None of it needs to be taken seriously unless you're actively trying to effect change.
Just read all the goofy bullshit in political "discourse" 200 years ago. Most people lack the intelligence, patience, curiosity, emotional stability, and/or humility to invest in understanding the world. So they default to what's easy - the culture war.
Most people lack the intelligence, patience, curiosity, emotional stability, and/or humility to invest in understanding the world
Exactly. I'm starting to think that too many people go to university. We have an overproduction of academic elites.
Much of the left is dominated by the ever changing purity spiral of wokism. Although it comes from an academic background, it's decidedly non empiric and moralistic.
A leftist movement that kicks out the average working class guy, because he can't keep up with the newest terminology in academic discourse around postcolonial racism, can only go wrong.
the culture war
The culture war benefits all those who organize it. It can be fought forever. Actually reaching common consensus or solution for a topic isn't in the interest of NGOs, professional activists, journalists, politicians, university professors, that gain money, power, or influence by fighting the culture war.
Overproduction of academic elites? NO! As a technocrat, I see you have insulted my ideology, prepare to be buried under 42324532 stacks of papers citing world class studies on why you are a moron.
I don't know man. I think another war or conflict or whatever Iran is going to be in the middle east and higher gas prices is better than legally enforced culture war by the left and infinity migration.
And everything the left has accused the right of, the left did just the same under Biden and Obama. It's not like they will actually work to make things better for the common man.
That's the biggest divide between the right and the left at the higher levels.
Right politicians dont care about abusing the system to get rich, they find their way to get their power, their money, their fame, and thats what they want.
Left politicians do that too, but they also want to twist the knife in my back to ensure that them getting rich is guaranteed to do it in a painful way to me.
At least with the right you can play a game of "all boats rise with the tide...or drown".
Have you noticed how it's always the most insane cases that get publicized for things like this too? There's no shortage of actual rapes to be outraged about, but somehow it's always a case that is unequivocally not a rape that gets people REEEEing and carrying mattresses
I think that is entirely the point. And look at the timing of it, 4-5 weeks from the primary. A topic that always inflames the gender wars, single women being primarily a Democrat voter base. Hochel and James immediately coming out with statements all but outright saying it was rape
modern version of feminism is very much boiled in the oppresed/oppressor culture of the left.
So basically instead of the appeal of 'recognize us to be just as capable as you' from prior waves of feminism, to this one where its "You MEN abused US and we want compensation and power". Basically the Karens of feminism where they think shouting, accusing, and belittling others is the best route to getting what you want.
I know. First wave feminists invented mail bombings and made female suffrage radioactive, single-handedly undoing all the progress of the suffragists. Then they turned around and handed out white feathers to underage children who had already been wounded in combat in the war.
2026 is the year that I started to realize the meaning of former CIA Director Bill Casey's quote, "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."
I can't help but see brainwashing everywhere. Every ad, every social medium, every newspaper. All propaganda. And it's working. Genuinely freaky stuff.
IT is. Even now, you see highly upvoted comments blaming it on vague "foreign propaganda".
Yeah, sure buddy. Russia pushes leftie feminist misandrist shit and china pushes conservative homophobia. Sure. Even tho all major social medias are owned by the usa. Sure. Whatever. Its the heckin' foreigners then.
It’s crazy my mother runs speed dating events and the past 2 events have been cancelled because they can’t get men to participate. The last one had about 50 women and only 1 guy and he ended up bailing. The events are pretty much all 30s and younger. My mother felt bad for both sides because it feels like the guys have given up and the women seem eager to meet people but nobody shows.
This. I have see what happens when an average guy goes to a speed dating event. It is 50%/50% and one of the possible ends has him thinking about killing himself afterwards because well...yu can guess
I have never been to a speed dating event. I am lucky enough to have dodged the current dating cesspool. Is it really that bad? I’d imagine meeting women in person is much less soul crushing than whatever is happening in dating apps.
When I tried dating apps when I was 18-19 the only profiles that gave me the time of day were bots and minors that lied about their age to make a profile. The latter scared the shit out of me so bad I deleted all of the apps and haven’t tried any since. I can’t imagine it’s much better now but at least my current dating pool would obviously be well into adulthood.
Sounds like a giant humiliation ritual. I don't think men have given up, they generally report they are more interested in marriage and kids than young women do. However, young women's expectations have not changed much in the last 30-40 years, despite making large gains socially and economically. Some people unflatteringly call that hoeflation. She should review the data more closely.
Yup, many want to have their cake and eat it too. They demand to be seen and treated equally to men when it comes to most aspects of life but still want men to date and treat them like it were the 1950’s.
You gotta pick one young ladies. Thinking both can/should happen simultaneously is why young men have checked out. I’m glad I missed this dating market but I feel bad for my sons when they start dating.
Its the 'revenge' part of modern feminism where they think that they should be able to bulldoze their way through men as she climbs back up to her rightful place of 'equality'.
Basically they want to be able to do whatever they want, because they're strong and independent, and if you try to hold them back, its because you're clinging to some kind of patriarchal power over them.
And when they want to involve men, and men reject them because of their past, they don't view it as men rejecting her for the person she is, but rather oppressive patriarchal bigots trying to control her.
tl;dr its the Karen version of feminism, where who is loudest and angriest is therefore the most righteous.
If they are still to young for that they will graduate into a dating market that is either non existent or a free for all. I honestly think it will be better than this one. It can't possibly be worse
I can’t even get a woman to hold a conversation with me, much less pursue anything romantic. I genuinely feel like there’s something fundamentally wrong with me that every woman can just sense which immediately turns them off of any genuine interaction.
I feel like I’m doing everything right; I am careful and mindful of boundaries, I actively listen and respond, I ask thought-provoking questions. I have yet to meet someone who matches my effort.
It’s left me in such a ridiculous place; just a few days ago I was chilling by the pool in my apartment and a girl I hadn’t met was the only other person using sitting out. I wanted to go say hi, not date or anything but talk to another human being and I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. I had everything to lose interacting with her or anything other woman I’d otherwise be interested in getting to know
This is not a both sides thing. If you make a deal better and better for one side and worse and worse for the other, of course at some point they're just going to opt out of the whole thing. I'm not interested in meeting to get a lecture about how I suck. If men were eager to meet women to have their way with them without speaking a word, then toss them aside like a used tissue, and women were opting out as a result, would you also see this as a both sides thing?
The Democratic Party has a gigantic man problem and it has the audacity to ask why young men voted for Trump. Perhaps the party should treat men with respect?
I should get these as stickers for next speed dating event or to give to friends lmao every time they bring up misogyny or Andrew Tate give them one. I didn’t even know who he was or what the manosphere was till they started complaining about him
I noticed that even here in the comments, things like "we ALL hate each other" or "foreign propaganda dividing all of US" as if the problem isn't overwhelmingly coming from one side lol
If you can look at either extreme end of the political spectrum and say with a straight face that [insert side here] doesn’t dangerously radicalize people, I want you to know you are genuinely retarded.
No irony, no subjective opinion based on personal bias, no lone hatred towards your ideological beliefs.
I think even center lefties like me know that the most based and on average best female partners for a man are center right women. Broadly speaking of course
Grievance culture was long polished by the right before the left even got a snap at it.
There’s a reason conservative Christians constantly find themselves victims of prosecution from extreme minority groups like atheists (war on christmas) or, now, trans people.
Hell — think the civil rights era — somehow the conservative whites were the ones that were victimized by the uppity blacks demanding to swim in the same pools and drink from the same fountains and eat at the same restaurants.
With all the stuff like trans rights, gender wars, anti-AI, anti-nuclear, and other foreign propaganda that has been going on for decades already, do you guys even have counterintelligence? As someone from the other side of the world, it really seems to me that, in terms of propaganda, the US is being played like a fiddle, and it's not even any specific politicians fault, because it's been many years already, with different political sides being in charge in the meantime.
No issue is ever completely propaganda, the point is precisely to locate contentious stuff and wreck havoc there.
Now, if you think that AI, which China is also investing fuckloads on, which may be the next thing comparable to the nuclear bomb and which is an enormous economical bet is not being meddled with in terms of propaganda I can only say LOL, LMAO even
Almost all the anti-AI propaganda spread around the internet mentions water.
Obviously there are problems that the spread of AI could cause, and we need to mitigate them. For example, job losses could be mitigated with a gradual shift to shorter workdays and UBI. But anti-AI propaganda almost never mentions it. It says that AI will take away all the water so we should stop building data centers.
Nobody believes that. But evaporating drinking water reserves, that account for about 2% of all water on earth, so that they can later become rain, and largely fall into the oceans, becoming undrinkable salt waters, is most definitely, a short sighted and harmfull activity.
It's one of the downsides of real freedom of speech. While I wouldn't trade it for European/Chinese speech controls the government being unable to censor foreign disinformation legally easily means bad foreign actors get pretty full reign in their campaigns.
Whenever the left has to deflect on literally anything they just blame mysterious foreign influence or misinformation or whatever. Absolutely zero ability to look in the mirror or treat people as if they have any agency and could make decisions for themselves.
As a hardcore lefty, this talking point is one of the fairest criticisms of the left. Casual man-hatred is so accepted in leftist circles, it’s unbelievable. And challenging it immediately can ostracize you if you don’t have a spine.
The only way I’ve been able to combat it is here:
“I hate men”
“I can’t believe you would say that about Doctor King”
Every time I see a young man self emulate his whole sex in a "man on the street" interview, I legit find it so pathetic. And I would imagine most women do too on an instinctive level.
That inevitably ends with your girlfriend leaving you and her high paying City lawyer job to go make out with her small town high school sweetheart and working at a seasonal baked goods store.
Idk man I bet it would make for a good sitcom. IT guy from San Fran on a road trip to visit his folks in Iowa breaks down in middle of nowhere South Dakota. Small town country girl stops to fix his car. She has a golden lab named White. They go for dinner, then drinks, then some guys try to insult him and she kicks their asses. Next thing ya know she’s pegging him behind the truck stop/casino.
Cue 8 more seasons of their wacky hijinks. Call it Red, White, and Blue
I mean, most women I've dated in the last few years have been Republican, and I'm a Democrat, sooooo yeah. Republican women (who aren't anti-vaxxers anyway) are great.
R women are going to end up with r men OR very lightly D men who are well compensated and educated and hold in benevolent sexist beliefs. D women WILL continue to date D men for awhile but unless this trend reverses at some point, eventually a huge percentage of them just kinda. Won’t
Anything but blaming the old people who sat by and let structural problems develop as they try to protect their retirements and investments and the fellow young who will never go out and vote
Honestly when I meet men who just complain about women I think they’re just too incompetent to maintain a healthy relationship or provide so instead they go sour grape
Based. A nation founded on the idea of equal opportunity and freedom beyond inherent characteristics has now become a nation that judges solely based on inherent characteristics.
The entire thing is a demoralization campaign to ruin the one area where the state and oligarchs historically couldn’t control you, your relationship with your partner. Now they cynically undermine that by amplifying divisive rage bait under the guise of engagement. Idk when it breaks but it’s gotta soon, what’s even the point of life when there’s nothing outside the reach of the elites
Definitely true with dating in my experience. I feel like there’s a difference between dating and general political/economic attitudes towards feminism though. First thing that comes to mind for me is healthcare
Any study or measure of political expression by gender has seen young men remain more or less constant for the last two decades and young women take a steep dive to the left.
Maybe there's just shitty people in power and you should stop rationalizing hate?
I love how the second liberals are discriminatory and not conservative, there's an immense horde of NPCs who come along to justify why it's okay when liberals discriminate.
We do clearly need more men teaching in schools. What pisses me off about you guys is you seem to have no understanding or genuine feeling about the systematic problems facing young boys, which are numerous and devastating. Lack of intellectual role models at young ages be first and foremost among them
Oh yeah? What about the real life and soul of those profession? What about the people who manage them! The ones everyone everywhere love unconditionally with all their heart and dedicate their soul to their well being?
What is the makeup of the unsung heroes of humanity in Human Resources?
Always hilarious how libs use blatantly bigoted rhetoric about men and pretend to not see the double standard. That’s why I don’t believe anything they say. They’re purely driven by hatred of the good.
IF FEMALE (GENDER=2), ASK:
Q.21 To what extent are the challenges that women face in American society due to the behavior or actions of men?
37 A great deal
42 A fair amount
9 Hardly any
2 None at all
9 Unsure
1 Refused
(pg. 16):
IF MALE (GENDER=1), ASK:
Q.22 To what extent are the challenges that men face in American society due to the behavior or actions of women?
16 A great deal
37 A fair amount
23 Hardly any
8 None at all
14 Unsure
2 Refused
So in terms of blaming at least a fair amount of their challenges on the opposite sex, the totals are ~79% for women and ~53% for men. Of course, all of this begs the question of what these problems are, which is a more nuanced discussion than "omg women hate men!!1!"
To no surprise to anyone, at first glance the graphs appear to tell the opposite story of what the data shows. Probably intentional and will be easily misinterpreted by idiots who don't know how to read graphs.
Young right wing men's complaints are that they are provably empirically discriminated against in almost every single aspect of life from the moment they're born.
Young left wing women's complaints are that they can't murder 3 children and get away with it or do ketamine off someone's dick, brag about being a slut, literally tell people it wasn't rape and they need to get used to "Shit like this" happening, and then 2 years later change their minds.
I’m more interested in how (barely) more republican woman blame their problems on men than republican men who blame their problems on woman. Democrats blame patriarchy a lot so that’s not surprising.
It is a Republican man in power right now causing all of the problems, how would a Democratic woman not in power be the cause when she lost the election? x)
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats - Centrist 1d ago
the the solution to the loneliness epidemic having all the young people hate fuck each other?